319: FROM THE TRENCHES / From Google to Gen AI: The new rules of online discovery and validation - with Darryl Sparey & Simon Murphy
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If AI doesn’t mention you, you don’t exist. 👉 Generative AI is changing the game: from search rankings to synthesised answers, your reputation matters more than ever.
This week’s featured track is FROM THE TRENCHES — in-depth conversations with experienced operators working at the sharp end of PR, media and communications.
Hosted by Trevor Young, this series explores how recognition is earned, how credibility compounds, and how influence is built in today’s reputation economy.
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This episode dives straight into the revolution happening in search and reputation - where discovery, validation, and authority-building are being transformed by GenAI.
Host Trevor Young - along with expert guests Darryl Sparey and Simon Murphy - take listeners into the trenches of PR, communications, and AI, unpacking how leaders, experts and brands can earn their presence in the generative AI landscape.
What’s covered:
- Why traditional SEO strategies aren’t enough, and what “Generative Engine Optimisation” really means.
- The rise of GenAI as the go-to for deep questions, synthesised answers, and (personal) brand credibility.
- Why B2B decision-makers and consumers are moving to GenAI - and what it means for your visibility, reputation, and commercial impact.
- How AI platforms like ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini, Copilot, and Claude have different rules and partnerships that influence what gets surfaced.
- The critical role of earned media, owned media, and structured content - plus, why regularly updating your 'About' page is now mission-critical.
- Actionable advice for leaders, founders, and experts: how to proactively audit, create, and position content that gets recognized and cited by AI.
- The new “authority stack” – structured web content, consistent entity presence (LinkedIn, Wikipedia, directories), and meaningful earned media mentions in both small and big outlets.
Key takeaways:
- Does your brand really exist if GenAI doesn’t recognise it - proactivity is key!
- The right kind of content and citations matter more than ever - depth beats breadth.
- Freshness and consistency trump old-school “set-and-forget” SEO techniques.
- Smaller, niche players can leverage agility to outpace bigger brands in GenAI-driven discovery.
Who should listen?
PR pros, marketers, founders, thought leaders, and anyone serious about reputation and authority in the age of AI.
Connect with the experts:
- Darryl Sparey: hardnumbers.co.uk, LinkedIn
- Simon Murphy: LinkedIn, indigomurphy.com
Ready to earn your right to be discovered? Tune in and set your strategy for the AI-powered future of reputation!
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