You’ll want to send this episode to every friend who casually drops the phrase "I'm so depressed" when they're just having a bad day, or anyone trying to figure out where normal sadness ends and something much heavier begins.

Have you noticed how casually we throw around major mental health terms over coffee, accidentally minimizing a condition that deeply impacts both the brain and the body?

In this episode of But Are You Happy?, host Ashani Dante sits down with clinical psychologist Julie Chapman to explore the complex reality of depression. We go beyond the casual slang to uncover what it truly means.

Together, they discuss the danger of casual language and why confusing ordinary sadness with a clinical episode does a disservice to both. Julie breaks down why depression looks completely different from the outside depending on who is experiencing it, meaning those closest to you might only ever see the tiniest cracks. They look at how a major life shift, like a relationship breakdown or having children, can shatter the protective people-pleasing structures keeping our underlying pain at bay, while confronting the physical reality of mental illness to dismantle the myth that we are just heads on sticks.

The conversation also explores the relationship between our minds and bodies, challenging common assumptions about what a depressive episode looks like and offering practical insights into recognising a system failure before the spiral takes over.

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Host: Ashani Dante

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Today we take a look at what makes a good boss and an effective leader in the workplace.

We speak with Kirstin Ferguson, an award winning leadership specialist about the difference between management and leadership, why it's important to know the difference, how to be a leader in your own role and the key skills she sees in strong leaders.

Before Productivity Expert Deborah Ho, breaks down some practical ways to be a better leader and create a more human-centric workplace.

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Host: Deborah Ho

Guest: Kirstin Ferguson, leadership expert, executive coach, writer and public speaker.

Executive Producer: Talissa Bazaz

Producer: Clare O'Halloran

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