81: Libby Graves
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"It's a very different experience to experience yourself when you're really present — and we could talk about what that means and how we get there, which takes a lot of practice — and how we just kind of go through life. And we can be more present to life and to our surroundings. And it's a really different thing to just be still and be present."
— Libby Graves
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