(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Charles & Chase Koch

(1:04) Koch Industries Overview: Scale, Business Lines & History

(2:21) Building the Business: Early Days & Charles Koch Joins (1961)

(11:31) Failures, Creative Destruction & Learning from Mistakes

(19:22) Culture & Principle-Based Management

(33:53) Georgia-Pacific Acquisition & Culture Transformation

(56:17) Stand Together: Education Reform & Social Change

(1:12:37) AI, Economic Challenges & the Future of Capitalism

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(0:00) Spencer Pratt vs. the Machine

(3:01) Inside the Palisades Fire: Drained Reservoirs, No Sirens & Watching His House Burn on His Phone

(14:03) Why He's Running for Mayor: FireAid's $100M Scandal & the NGO Corruption Nobody Talks About

(28:10) Karen Bass at 20% & the Real State of Los Angeles: Crime, Homelessness & a City in Free Fall

(38:23) Spencer's Plan to Fix LA: Enforcing Laws, Auditing Everyone & the Billionaires Ready to Rebuild

(52:22) Hollywood, LAUSD & Small Business: What It Actually Takes to Make LA #1 Again

(56:25) The Permitting Nightmare Killing Small Business & How AI Fixes It Overnight

(1:04:22) His 8-Year Vision

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(0:00) Bestie intros! Thoughts on the LA mayor election

(4:38) SpaceX-Anthropic deal, Elon Web Services, SpaceX IPO valuation, Anthropic's insane growth trajectory

(26:48) Is Anthropic the next great monopoly? Early signals or major overreaction?

(35:21) "FDA for AI" freakout, how the White House thinks about AI safety

(52:01) Flipping AI's negative perception: Giving, healthcare and education innovation

(1:00:04) Trading the AI market, state of the economy

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Referenced in the show:

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2052413443739951366

https://www.anthropic.com/news/higher-limits-spacex

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2052073463029055926

https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/2052075296002625942

https://x.ai/news/anthropic-compute-partnership

https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/nvidia-pultegroup-span-date-center-backyard

https://www.gradesaver.com/there-will-be-blood/study-guide/a-brief-history-of-standard-oil

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/04/technology/trump-ai-models.html

https://x.com/SusieWiles47/status/2052192419718783246

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/05/business/dealbook/trump-ai-regulation.html

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/03.20.26-National-Policy-Framework-for-Artificial-Intelligence-Legislative-Recommendations.pdf

https://x.com/ahall_research/status/2052042535661691282

https://x.com/SenSanders/status/2052116733683470556