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Andrew McGeorge: Cultivating a Growth Mindset in CRE (#148)

Andrew McGeorge: Cultivating a Growth Mindset in CRE (#148)

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 Bio Andrew McGeorge is Senior Managing Director and City Head of the Hines Washington D.C. office, overseeing new business development, acquisitions, asset management, and property management across the Mid-Atlantic. A Naval Academy graduate and Navy veteran, he built a career spanning residential construction at Toll Brothers, commercial office development at Monday Properties, and multifamily development at Fairfield Residential before joining Hines in 2020. He holds an MS in Organizational Dynamics from UPenn and an MBA from MIT Sloan, and is a LEED Accredited Professional and active ULI member. Hines DC: Legacy & Vision [2:39] Andrew describes his City Head role and the goal to double Hines' Mid-Atlantic AUM over five years. Sitting in Hines' original DC office building—Columbia Square, delivered in 1986—he reflects on inheriting a 40-year legacy built by predecessors Bill Alsop and Chuck Waters and his commitment to being a worthy steward of it. Background: Naval Academy & Early Life [7:49] Raised in Devon, Pennsylvania, Andrew credits athletics, the military, and academia for shaping his discipline. Lacrosse opened the door to the Naval Academy; he served as a Supply Corps officer in Yokosuka, Japan, then as an intelligence officer at the Pentagon before pivoting to real estate. Building the Foundation: Toll Brothers, Graduate School & Mundy Properties [13:24] Andrew joined Toll Brothers' PM training program straight from the Navy, then earned an MS at Penn (while still active duty) and an MBA at MIT via the GI Bill—driven by a love of learning, not credential-chasing. A timely pivot to Mundy Properties in 2006 led him through the GFC, including the all-equity development of the LEED Platinum 1812 North Moore tower in Rosslyn with Lehman Brothers as partner. Fairfield Residential to Hines [27:32] After overseeing Mid-Atlantic multifamily development at Fairfield Residential from 2016–2019, Andrew joined Hines to return to complex mixed-use environments. He reflects on navigating a rising interest rate environment post-May 2022 as the steepest learning curve of his career. Key Projects: North Bethesda, Walter Reed & CityCenterDC [38:17] Three marquee projects: a transit-oriented data science hub planned for North Bethesda Metro station; the ongoing adaptive reuse challenges at the Parks at Walter Reed; and the "herculean" 2023 CityCenterDC refinancing—a $300M CMBS SASB deal closed with JP Morgan amid the SVB/Signature Bank collapse, the first such transaction in approximately 18 months. DC Housing Crisis & The Affordable Housing Paradox [57:55] The region needs ~200,000 new homes by 2030 but has averaged only ~12,000 units annually since 2021. Andrew flags a frustrating irony rarely discussed publicly: developers are building affordable units willingly, but severe administrative obstacles are leaving those units vacant at CityCenterDC, Walter Reed, and the Wharf alike. Growth Mindset, Sustainability & Billboard Message [1:10:17] Andrew discusses Hines' firm-wide LEED commitment and the ethical legacy of the Hines family. On mentorship, he reflects on a 20-year relationship with host John Coe, his original ULI mentor. His billboard: "The magic is in the work that you're avoiding"—a call to lean into discomfort, because nothing ever grows in the comfort zone. Resources:Andrew McGeorge LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-mcgeorge-62053b3/ Chapters (00:00:00) - Indivents of DC Area Real Estate(00:02:35) - The Role of the City Head of Heinz Washington D.C(00:05:49) - Heinz D.C. Office: Growth Through Acquisitions(00:07:29) - How the Navy Influenced My Business Decision(00:12:04) - Favorite memory of a Navy pilot(00:12:38) - Real Estate Graduates at Toll Brothers(00:18:08) - Getting Out of College(00:20:00) - Pivot from Toll Brothers to Mundy Properties(00:22:18) - Former Mundy Properties Executives on Lehman Brothers Property(00:25:41) - The Westrights' role in Rosslyn's skyline(00:27:25) - When Brookfield Expands into Multifamily Development(00:32:52) - Chuck Waters on Reinventing the Real Estate Industry(00:37:51) - Heinz Properties' diversification away from office(00:39:49) - Exploring 1050 17th Street: An Interesting Acquisition(00:41:30) - Heinz Development's $15 Million Metro Station Mixed-Use(00:45:05) - Marriott Expands into Washington DC(00:49:22) - Developers on the Army Base Project(00:52:43) - The Hard Work Behind City DC Refinance(00:57:37) - Heinz Property Group CEO Discusses Current Market Conditions(00:59:03) - Would Heinz Be Forming a Home Builder?(01:00:16) - Washington DC Office Sales: Slow Growth Prospects(01:06:53) - Washington, DC Real Estate Investment(01:09:57) - North Bethesda Commercial Partners Lead Accredited Professional(01:11:19) - Leading with sustainability at Heinz(01:15:27) - INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT(01:17:40) - How to Balance Work, Family and Personal Well Being(01:20:55) - Marathon Real Estate Executive Advice(01:25:19) - What's the most ...
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