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Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way

Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way

By: Jevon Perra
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Jevon Perra is on the search for guides that point the way to Awakening, classically called Enlightenment. Discover these guides' real life stories of physical, emotional, mental and spiritual healing and how you can partake in the same.

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  • Letting Go of the A*$Holes - ACIM - Song of Prayer
    Apr 6 2026
    Processing Anger and Judgment: Soo Kim wondered if their strong judgments during mass were an opportunity for personal growth or just reinforced their ego in believing others are wrong. Jevon Perra suggested that writing a personal sermon in their phone during mass, which often served as a "wonderful affirmation" for themself, was a helpful way to cope. Jevon Perra also stated that the corrections they had for the priest always applied to themself, revealing their own hidden judgment.Attending Mass Due to Family Obligations: Soo Kim explained that they attended the Catholic mass because of their parents, despite the emotional cost. When their parents offered money for the collection basket, Soo Kim ignored them to avoid confrontation, having previously told them they would not participate. Soo Kim’s mother appreciated their attendance, viewing it as a success for her own "fantasy life".Catholic Views on Salvation: Denise Darlene shared a story about a friend's father contemplating death and worrying about their son possibly going to purgatory for leaving the Church. Jevon Perra noted that purgatory is "gracious" because people can "earn their way out of that," in contrast to other Christian denominations. The conversation noted the mechanistic nature of Catholicism, where doing and saying the required things are more important than believing or meaning them.Definition of Prayer in A Course in Miracles: The group began reading from *A Course in Miracles*, defining prayer as a continuous state of being, not just words or actions. Prayer in its asking form stems from a sense of scarcity and lack, which involves feelings of weakness and inadequacy. The text suggests that without guilt, there is no scarcity, and "the sinless have no needs".Overcoming Judgment in Religious Settings: Soo Kim described how attending mass forces them to constantly filter out what they do not believe, making it difficult to maintain a peaceful state. Jevon Perra countered that they handle similar situations by remembering that their job is not to save people but to forgive, which means letting go of judgment. Jevon Perra concluded that they can choose to meditate or tune out the parts that do not interest them.Reframing Experience as a Witness: Denise Darlene advised Soo Kim to adopt the role of a witness rather than a participant to avoid emotional investment. They suggested viewing the church service from a "technical standpoint," like watching a movie with fascination, acknowledging that everyone is innocent in their current level of belief and ignorance. Denise Darlene emphasized that a miracle is simply changing one’s perspective from fear to love.Identifying the Root of Anger: Soo Kim expressed that the church made them impure and instilled guilt by literally teaching them to strike their heart and state that their faults were their great offense. Jevon Perra noted that being upset with the priests for judging them means Soo Kim is simultaneously judging the priests with the same judgment. Denise Darlene added that anger reveals pre-existing guilt and shame within Soo Kim, who would otherwise not be bothered.Forgiveness as Letting Go: Jevon Perra affirmed that offenders are a "gift" because they reveal personal judgments. They shared that letting go of the offense and the judgment is what forgiveness entails. Jevon Perra concluded that the negative experiences only remain real if one holds on to the offense, and that peace comes from letting go of judgments about how the world or people should be.The Choice of Perspective: Denise Darlene noted that anger arises from feeling powerless, and that awareness of the anger allows one to choose a different response. They reiterated that no one, including the priests, can act differently than they are doing right now because they do not have the same level of knowledge or awareness.Patterns, Conditions, and Awareness: Denise Darlene explained that individuals operate based on patterns and conditions established by what they have been taught and what is expected of them, such as going to church with their mother on Easter. They stressed that people cannot improve until they become aware of these conditions and are shown something different, suggesting the listener could be a catalyst for change. They noted that remaining angry limits one's experience on Earth, and encouraged the listener to choose differently without judgment, as judgment creates stagnation.Healing, Forgiveness, and Helping Others: Denise Darlene stated that the listener's experiences, including those from childhood, could serve a purpose, allowing them to help others once they heal, forgive, and understand how to navigate life. They emphasized that until a person moves past anger and finds clarity, they cannot effectively assist others. Jevon Perra affirmed these points, stating they receive this message.The Role of Innocence and Grace: Denise Darlene concluded the discussion by linking the ability to see ...
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  • The Desire Dumpster Fire - ACIM - Song of Prayer
    Mar 31 2026
    Review of "The Song of Prayer" Text: The group transitioned to discussing their reading material, "The Song of Prayer," which Jevon Perra has read previously but has difficulty recalling. Jevon Perra confirmed they are working through Part One, likely starting on or around verse six.Interpretation of True Prayer and the Echo: Jevon Perra explained their interpretation of a line from verse three, "you can't ask for the echo because the song is the gift," suggesting that the echo represents the after-effects or external things people desire, such as money or a spa day. The true gift, the song of heaven, is the peace and contentment that they already possess, emphasizing that not one note of this song has ever been missed.Understanding Prayer as Acceptance and Communion: The discussion moved to verse six, which addresses how those who have not yet reached the level of fearlessly accepted prayer still need help. Jevon Perra highlighted that this type of prayer is not about trying to get God to change things, but rather about releasing judgments or waking up from the dream. Denise Darlene agreed, stating that true prayer is putting oneself in the presence of God—communion—rather than telling God problems.Prayer as Thanksgiving and the Concept of Namaste: Jevon Perra cited verse seven, explaining that praying to Christ in anyone is true prayer because it is a gift of thanks to the Father, referencing the concept of Namaste as acknowledging the divine presence in others. Denise Darlene noted that the power of prayer lies in it asking for nothing and receiving everything, describing it as a song of thanksgiving for what they already are.The Goal of Union with God vs. Worldly Achievement: Denise Darlene emphasized that everything God is is already theirs, and prayer is simply union with God, leading to a state of gratitude and bliss. Jevon Perra contrasted this with the worldly "accomplishment game" where people pray to change situations, seeking a desired result they label as "good" and avoiding an undesired result they label as "bad". Denise Darlene affirmed that everything unfolding is for their highest good, even undesired outcomes, because they often do not know their own best interests.Distinction Between Deserving and Best Interest: Soo Kim discussed their past experience of seeking a raise and being insulted instead, which ultimately led them to leave the company and receive a greater raise elsewhere. Denise Darlene pointed out that they got what they deserved, which was leaving the company, and that the entire sequence of events unfolded perfectly for their highest good. Denise Darlene cautioned against seeking external validation, stating that circumstances reflect what they inherently believe to be true about themselves.Three Ways to Interpret Life and the Role of Personality: Jevon Perra introduced three ways to interpret life: how to get what they want, how to develop their personality, and "Who am I?". They suggested that non-dual texts point to the third conversation, emphasizing that the personality is not the self, and thus the personality's achievements or failures do not affect the true self. Denise Darlene concluded that the ultimate desire is to awaken to the truth of being one with God, which often happens through adversity and challenges.The "Strongarming" Approach to Spiritual Practice: Soo Kim expressed an internal conflict, acknowledging the concept of divine union but still clinging to the idea that intense effort or a specific "formula" (like waking up at 3:45 AM for 40 days) is required to achieve desired outcomes. They asked how getting what they want is not the answer if achieving it still happens.Ego's Desire for Wanting and Responsibility: Denise Darlene cited *A Course in Miracles* stating the ego’s mantra is "seek but never find," constantly moving from one desire to the next. Denise Darlene explained that when one understands that God is their only source, everything is a gift, leading to gratitude and an experience of life as a surrendered vessel, which the ego resists because it loses the ability to take credit or assign blame.The "Game" of Life and the Roller Coaster Analogy: Jevon Perra suggested reframing the achievement pursuit as a game, noting that the trouble arises when they forget they are playing a game. Denise Darlene suggested a roller coaster analogy to visualize the concept that they are not the doer and are not changing the ride.Suffering as Resistance to Pain: Jevon Perra defined suffering as resistance to the experience they call pain, emphasizing that while circumstances (pain) may be scripted, suffering does not have to occur. Jevon Perra cited Victor Frankl's experience in a Nazi concentration camp to illustrate how changing the story—creating meaning—provided a reprieve from suffering without changing the underlying painful circumstances.Surrender During Difficult Experiences:
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    46 mins
  • You can't ask for the echo. The song is the gift. ACIM. Song of Prayer
    Mar 27 2026
    You can't ask for the echo. The song is the gift. ACIM. Song of Prayer The participants decided to resume reading *A Course in Miracles*, specifically *The Song of Prayer*, after having read the introduction in the last session. They located the text, which is at the back of the book, in the section reserved for the "most spiritually advanced".Reading and Interpretation of "True Prayer" (Part 1): Soo Kim read the first section of "True Prayer," noting that prayer is a way to reach God, not merely a question or entreaty, and "it asks for nothing". Jevon Perra interpreted the core issue with typical prayer as wanting "to get God to do something".Understanding God's Answers and Experience: The group discussed the concept that true prayer is receiving what is already given, as opposed to asking for something specific, because the reality is already complete. They noted that the Holy Spirit provides answers that suit the level of need one can recognize, and the "real sound" is a "song of thanksgiving and of love". Jevon Perra commented that people often desire negative experiences, and the only proof that they want the experience is the fact that they are having it.The Role of the Holy Spirit and Letting Go: Jevon Perra discussed how the Holy Spirit gently brings people back to awareness and gives them moments of peace, which reminds them that their suffering comes from gripping an attachment to a specific plan. The process involves letting go of the "have to" and questioning how one’s life is "already perfect" underneath the frantic effort to make it different.Enneagram and the Belief in Lack: Soo Kim asked what belief drives the need to cling to attachments, suggesting it stems from a belief that one lacks something. Jevon Perra provided a brief overview of the core dispositions for Enneagram types one through eight, relating each to a particular lack they focus on, like 'not right,' 'needs help,' 'not enough to know,' or 'dangerous'.Desire for Separation and Ultimate Goal: Jevon Perra argued that all this focus on 'wrongness' distracts people from the 'darkness' so they can maintain separation and feel special. They asserted that the ultimate goal is to "stay Javon," leading Brian Genovese to jokingly suggest a line of "Enlightened Clothing" with a T-shirt for each Enneagram number.The Constant Song of Thanksgiving and Love: Jevon Perra circled back to the "real sound" being a song of thanksgiving and love, which serves as a constant comforting hope. They reflected on telling themself that "it's okay, it's going to be okay" when fearing they might fail their family. Brian Genovese related this concept to an old radio show called "Eggbach" that used the slogan "Everything's going to be okay" during the 1970s.The Definition of True Prayer and Eternity: Soo Kim read that "The secret of true prayer is to forget the things you think you need," and that asking for specifics is overlooked when those needs are given up to God. God "answers only for eternity," meaning the answers address one's ultimate completeness, not their requests based on attachment.Religious Contexts and Personal Attachment: Jevon Perra noted that while religious circles often demand adherence to God's will, the text points to a personal surrender of one's attachment to a particular result, which is the true source of suffering. They argued that no matter what one achieves, they will end up in the same mental state they are in now.The Concept of God as Love vs. a Person: Soo Kim recounted a conversation with Mormons about whether it is possible to disobey the will of God. They challenged the idea of God being a person, arguing that to be a person requires a limited perspective, which contradicts the concept of an all-knowing God.Highest State of Contentment: Jevon Perra proposed that the highest state for a human while in a body is contentment, which they define as wanting nothing else. They asserted that suffering arises from the lack of contentment and attachment, regardless of whether the attachment is to wealth or virtuous goals like wisdom or service.Prayer as Stepping Aside and Listening: Soo Kim read Verse five, which defines prayer as "a stepping aside, a letting go, a quiet time of listening and loving," rather than a supplication. This is a way of remembering one’s inherent holiness and is an offering of self "to be at one with love," leaving nothing left to want.Suffering and Control: Brian Genovese discussed how people are programmed to seek control and that the act of "Jesus, help me" is an expression of letting go. Jevon Perra agreed that people believe they would be better masters than the masters they currently work for.The Non-Judgmental View of Experience: Jevon Perra stressed that the activities people engage in, even those considered immoral, are not inherently bad because they are all part of an experience that is sought for the purpose of finding contentment. The issue is realizing that these behaviors are often ...
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