Caregiving can be one of the most loving roles we ever step into, and one of the most intense, especially in retirement when you are juggling your own health, finances, time, and relationships while showing up for someone else. In this episode of Beyond 60: Unscripted, Ruth Williams-Brinkley is joined by entrepreneur and caregiver advocate Alexandra Drane, co-founder of Archangels, for an honest, practical conversation about what caregivers actually need, not just what people assume they need. Together they talk about why so many caregivers do not even identify as caregivers, how easily isolation and burnout can creep in, and why “care for the caregiver” has to be part of the plan. Alex shares concrete tools like building a “red phone” person you can call without shame, using a caregiver intensity score to name what is driving your stress, and the powerful idea of “outer circling,” which explains why caregivers need their own support system to hold them up while they hold others. They also dig into the complicated realities of spousal caregiving, the loneliness that can happen even in a full life, and how grace, community, and small supports can change everything.

About the Guest:
Alexandra Drane is the co-founder and CEO of ARCHANGELS, a women-owned public benefit corporation working to better recognize and support the millions of unpaid caregivers across the United States. A serial entrepreneur, Alex has founded multiple mission-driven companies, including Eliza Corporation and Engage with Grace, and she is a nationally recognized voice on caregiving, community health, and public-private partnership. She serves on several influential boards and advisory councils, speaks widely on the future of health and caregiving, and has been recognized with honors including the Care100 list and Entrepreneur of the Year distinctions. Known for her energy and candor, Alex brings both strategic insight and real-world humanity to everything she does.

https://www.archangels.me/

In this inspiring episode of Beyond 60: Unscripted, Ruth and special guest host Fawn sit down with Dr. Molly Coye—global healthcare innovator and Board Chair of SFJAZZ—to discuss how she’s redefining life after 60. Dr. Coye shares her journey from leading major health systems to championing the arts, highlighting the mental and emotional benefits of music, especially jazz, for those over 60. She delves into her concept of “rewirement,” illustrating how her career has positioned her for this new phase of life and how she continues to stay active and purposeful beyond traditional retirement.

Lean more about SFJAZZ: https://www.sfjazz.org/

Guest Bio:

A global leader in healthcare innovation, Dr. Molly Coye’s career has spanned executive leadership in government, academic and private health systems, innovative technology, health services firms, national policy advocacy and development. Dr. Coye serves as Executive in Residence at AVIA, the leading network for health systems deploying digital solutions to innovate and transform healthcare, where she is executive sponsor for the Medicaid Transformation Project. Dr. Coye is an elected member of the National Academy of Medicine and serves on the board of directors for Amedisys (AMED), Headspace Health, SameSky Health, and Curai, in addition to advising venture investment firms and venture-backed companies developing digital health services. Dr. Coye served as Chief Innovation Officer at UCLA Health; engaged in more than a decade of board service at Aetna, Inc. and at PATH.org; founded and led HealthTech, which became the premier forecasting organization for emerging technologies in health care from 2000-2010; was Commissioner of Health for the State of New Jersey, Director of the California State Department of Health Services, and Head of the Division of Public Health Practice at the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health.

In this episode of Beyond 60: Unscripted, Ruth sits down with Fawn Lopez and Tom Schreier, Founding Director of the Inspired Leadership Initiative (ILI) at the University of Notre Dame. The ILI is a unique program for individuals who have completed their career, inviting them to reimagine their next stage of life surrounded by a diverse group of peers and the dynamic Notre Dame community. This conversation was recorded in 2025 while Tom was still leading the program full-time. While he has since stepped away from daily operations, he remains passionate about the ILI’s mission and so has stayed engaged with the program, which is now led by Professor John Duffy.

Whether you're contemplating your next move after a fulfilling career or seeking inspiration for purposeful living beyond 60, this conversation offers valuable perspectives on embracing change and making meaningful contributions in the next phase of life.

Learn about the Inspired Leadership Initiative: https://ili.nd.edu/

Guest Bio:

Tom Schreier is the Founding Director of the Inspired Leadership Initiative at the University of Notre Dame, a program designed to help accomplished professionals pivot into new purpose-driven chapters after their primary careers. Before leading ILI, Tom built an extensive career in finance and investment management, holding leadership roles at Northwest Airlines, Credit Suisse First Boston, Piper Jaffray, FAF Advisors, and Nuveen Investments, where he helped grow assets under management to over $225 billion. He currently serves as Lead Director for Piper Sandler Companies, sits on the Allina Health Board, and remains active in civic and nonprofit leadership. Tom holds a B.A. in economics and German from Notre Dame and an M.B.A. from Harvard University.