Going to church means attending a building or event, while being the church means living out your identity as a believer — the body of Christ and the temple of God — every day, in every relationship. Scripture (1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 1, 1 Peter 2:9) teaches that believers are not just attendees but living stones built into God's spiritual house. Gathering with other believers still matters deeply (Hebrews 10:24-25), but it flows from who you already are, not the other way around.

David McIntyre and Phillip Rich, with host/producer Jon Dzyuba, continue their series on biblical identity by exploring what changes when believers understand they are the church, not just attendees of one. Scripture covered includes 1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 1 and 4, Colossians 1, 1 Corinthians 3 and 6, Hebrews 10, Matthew 18, Acts 2, and 1 Peter 2 and 5. Plus, the usual "What's in the Cup?" segment to kick things off.

MINI FAQ

Q: What's the difference between going to church and being the church?

A: Going to church is about attending a building; being the church is about living as the body of Christ and temple of the Holy Spirit in everyday life.

Q: Why does Hebrews 10:24-25 matter for this discussion?

A: It explicitly commands believers not to stop gathering together, showing that gathering and identity work together rather than against each other.

Q: What happens when churches are run like entertainment instead of biblical fellowship?

A: David and Phillip explain that performance-driven gatherings can produce consumers and "celebrity pastor" culture instead of genuine, Christ-centered community.

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The church is not a building — it's the body of Christ. According to 1 Corinthians 12:27 and Ephesians 1:22-23, every believer who has accepted Jesus is joined into one living body with Christ as the head. Believers are also called the temple of God in 1 Corinthians 3:16-17, since the Holy Spirit dwells in people, not in walls. The Greek word "ekklesia," translated "church," literally means "the called-out ones" — a people, not a place. David McIntyre and Phillip Rich explain why this matters for how you see yourself and your local gathering.

In Episode 1 of "The Broken Church," David McIntyre and Phillip Rich set the foundation for a two-part conversation about church health by first defining the church biblically. Walking through 1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 1 and 2, Colossians 1, and 1 Peter 2, they show the church is the body of Christ and the temple of God, not an organization, building, or membership list. They close with a practical challenge: this week, try calling your church the "gathering place" instead — and see how it reshapes how you see yourself.

Scripture Referenced: 1 Corinthians chapter 12, verses 12-13 and 27 · Romans chapter 12, verses 4-5 · Ephesians chapter 1, verses 15-23 · Colossians chapter 1, verses 15-18 and 24 · 1 Corinthians chapter 3, verses 16-17 · 1 Corinthians chapter 6, verses 19-20 · 2 Corinthians chapter 6, verse 16 · Ephesians chapter 2, verses 19-22 · 1 Peter chapter 2, verses 4-5

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FAQ

Q: Why does the Bible call believers "the temple of God"?

A: Because the Holy Spirit dwells in believers under the new covenant, not in a physical structure like the Old Testament temple.

Q: What's the difference between "the church" and "the gathering place"?

A: The church is the people — every believer, everywhere. The gathering place is the local building or group where believers meet.

Q: What's next in this series?

A: Part 2 covers the difference between being the church and going to church.

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A clergy woman claimed that if Jesus were preaching the Sermon on the Mount today, he might also say "blessed are those who end pregnancies." David McIntyre, Phillip Rich, and Jon Dzyuba push back — not with condemnation, but with Scripture. Psalm 139:13–16 says God knit each person together in the womb. Jeremiah 1:5 says God knew Jeremiah before he was formed. John 10:10 says Jesus came that we might have life. Asserting what Jesus "would have said" isn't interpretation. It's invention.

Week 6 of the BBB Reacts series opens with a clip that stopped David and Phil cold: a clergy woman confidently claiming that if Jesus were giving the Sermon on the Mount today, he might add "blessed are those who end pregnancies." Before anything else, David offers a clear pastoral disclaimer — nobody here is judging anyone who has been in that situation. Then they go to work on what Scripture actually says.

Josh McIntyre joins live to add his voice. Together the guys connect the dots between the dehumanization of the unborn and the same historical playbook used to justify slavery and the Holocaust — citing Voltaire's famous warning about absurdities and atrocities. They discuss Margaret Sanger, the cost of adoption, Planned Parenthood's placement in Black communities, and land where they always do: broken people need a Savior, and the only one who can put the pieces back together is Christ.

And yes — What's in the Cup? Jon went with banana split coffee from Good & Gather. Phillip showed up with Charleston Coffee Roasters Organic Charleston Whole Bean (and a full travelogue of Charleston, South Carolina). David brought fall energy with Autumn Delight from Red Barn.

Scriptures referenced: Psalm 139 verses 13 through 16 · Jeremiah chapter 1 verse 5 · John chapter 10 verse 10 · Ezekiel chapter 18 verse 32 · Psalm 127 verse 3 · Proverbs chapter 17 verse 6 · Luke chapter 1 verse 14 · Galatians chapter 5 · Matthew chapter 21 verse 44

Hosted by David McIntyre, Phillip Rich, and Jon Dzyuba. Guest: Josh McIntyre.
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Q: What does the Bible say about life in the womb?

A: Psalm 139 verses 13 through 16 describes God forming, knitting, and seeing every person in the womb — even at the stage of "unformed substance." Jeremiah chapter 1 verse 5 says God knew Jeremiah before he was even formed. David reads through these passages in full during the episode.

Q: Is it dangerous when pastors say what Jesus "would" say today?

A: David argues yes — there's a meaningful difference between interpreting what Scripture says and inventing what Jesus would add to it. Using the authority of Jesus to validate a modern position that contradicts his recorded words is, at best, error. At worst, it leads people away from truth.

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