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Conversation Lab Podcast

Conversation Lab Podcast

By: Jake McKee
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Summary

The Conversation Lab Podcast is a podcast about the power of conversation, told through conversations with people who live close to it every day. Each episode features a candid discussion with an expert from an adjacent field - design, research, psychology, community, leadership, writing, or systems thinking - exploring how conversation actually works in their world and what the rest of us can learn from it. This isn’t an interview show chasing soundbites or hot takes. It’s a slower, thoughtful exchange focused on how listening, framing, silence, and trust shape outcomes, and how better conversations lead to better decisions.

2026 Jake McKee
Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Conversation Lab: Lee LeFever - S1E8
    May 7 2026

    Lee LeFever started Common Craft back in 2003 with a simple idea: technology only spreads as far as people can understand it. His "In Plain English" videos broke down everything from RSS to Twitter using paper cutouts, hand-drawn art, and a whiteboard that lived on the floor of his house. Millions of people watched. Educators licensed them. A whole genre of explainer videos grew up around what Lee was doing.

    In this episode, Jake and Lee go back about 20 years to talk about how it all started, why simple beat slick, and what it taught Lee about explanation as a real skill people can learn.

    Find out more about Lee at https://commoncraft.com

    Find out more about Jake and the Customer Conversation Compass at: https://jakemckee.com/

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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • Conversation Lab: Conversation Tuning Exploration - S1E7
    Apr 26 2026

    In this episode, Jake tells the story of the night a whiskey cart rolled into his private dining room at Eleven Madison Park. The staff caught a throwaway joke he made and acted on it. That single moment captures everything Conversation Tuning is about.

    This is pillar three of the Customer Conversation Compass. It's the skill of asking questions that actually get you the truth instead of the answer your customer thinks you want to hear.

    Jake walks through the three biggest traps that wreck customer conversations, plus a quick pre-flight check you can run on your questions before any customer call.

    For more information on the Conversation Compass, visit https://jakemckee.com

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    18 mins
  • Conversation Lab: Larry Glickman S1E6
    Apr 13 2026

    Most people think a conversation starts when someone opens their mouth. It doesn't. It starts long before that, when the other person trusts you enough to say something real.

    Larry Glickman is the founder of JCAT Partners, where he trains law enforcement and private security professionals to work more effectively with the Jewish community. His program isn't a checklist. It's a foundation. Before anyone can have a quality conversation, they need to understand the language, rituals, and cultural context of the people they're working with. Without that, what you get isn't a real conversation. You get surface-level compliance and a lot of missed signals.

    In this episode, Larry and Jake dig into what it takes to build the conditions for honest conversation, and why product teams skip this step more than they realize.

    More information at: https://compass.jakemckee.com

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    1 hr and 4 mins
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