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Have you ever told yourself you'll do that scary thing once you feel more confident? In this episode, Lee and Michelle tackle one of the most common confidence myths head-on: that you need to feel confident before you act.

The truth? Confidence comes after you do the thing, not before. As Michelle puts it, "confidence is a receipt: you get it after you've made the purchase."

Drawing on personal stories (including Lee hiding behind a curtain at a networking event and cancelling a paid-for photo shoot), the pair explore why we avoid the things that scare us and why that avoidance actually makes things worse, not better. They dig into the science of how the brain processes fear, and why every time we push through a scary situation, we're literally rewiring our response to it.

This episode is packed with practical, actionable wisdom:

• The minimum viable action: what's the smallest step you can take towards that scary thing?
• Why preparation is the foundation of confident action - from Googling the street view of a new venue to writing down your questions before a difficult meeting
• Why inaction doesn't just stall your confidence, it actively erodes it, just like a muscle you stop using
• How lockdown quietly stripped many people's confidence and what that tells us about keeping our skills sharp
• The brain's "threat database" and how doing scary things repeatedly shrinks the fear response over time

Whether you want to speak up more in meetings, go to your first networking event, ask for that pay rise, or simply advocate for yourself at the doctor's surgery, this episode will give you the tools and the encouragement to take that first small step.

🎧 Listen now and start building your confidence, one tiny action at a time.

Find Lee at:

• Website: https://welshotimaging.co.uk/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leeatwelshot/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lee.iggulden

Find Michelle at:

• Web: https://www.thinkingspacecoaching.com/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingspacecoaching/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmichellerogers/

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Courage and Confidence Podcast – Season 3, Episode 2: Featuring Wayne Timbrell of Palmatum Coaching

In this fascinating episode, hosts Lee Iggulden and Michelle Rogers welcome a very special guest, Wayne Timbrell, founder of Palmatum Coaching, for a wide-ranging, deeply personal conversation about neurodiversity, self-discovery, and what it really means to thrive.

Wayne shares his experience as a late-diagnosed autistic individual, reflecting on a successful 25-year corporate career in digital marketing and ecommerce, and how understanding his own neurodivergent traits has transformed both his life and his work. Lee talks about her own diagnoses of ADHD and autism, making for an honest, relatable and moving discussion.

Together, the three explore:

• What it's like to mask and how exhausting it can be to spend years hiding who you really are
• Why so many neurodivergent people go undiagnosed until adulthood, and what's changing
• The difference between courage and confidence and why you need one before you can build the other
• The PERMA-V model: a practical wellbeing framework that Wayne recommends for anyone wanting to understand what's missing from their life
• The power of self-employment for those who feel they never quite fitted the corporate mould
• Why ‘good enough’ is sometimes exactly right and how over-analysis can lead to paralysis

Wayne also talks about his coaching practice, Palmatum Coaching (the Latin name for one of the Japanese maples), and how he supports neurodivergent individuals, plus the managers who work with them, to understand their strengths, build better habits, and feel genuinely happier at work.

Whether you're neurodivergent, neurotypical, or somewhere in between, this episode is packed with warmth, wisdom and plenty of ‘aha’ moments.

🎧 Listen now — and find out more about Wayne's work at Palmatum Coaching and follow him on Linked In

Find Lee at:

• Website: https://welshotimaging.co.uk/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leeatwelshot/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lee.iggulden

Find Michelle at:

• Web: https://www.thinkingspacecoaching.com/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingspacecoaching/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmichellerogers/

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Season three of Courage and Confidence kicks off with hosts Lee Iggulden and Michelle Rogers getting refreshingly real about why they've been off the air since January. Between snowstorms, illness, bereavements, and the general chaos of life, the duo share candid, heartfelt stories about what it truly means to keep going when everything seems to conspire against you.

Michelle opens up about the sudden loss of her father and the unexpected emotional and administrative marathon that follows a bereavement — from dealing with unhelpful utility companies to organising a funeral. Lee shares her own experience of being knocked flat by a mystery illness and the paralysing frustration of waiting on decisions outside her control.

But this episode isn't just about hardship. It's packed with genuine warmth and practical wisdom:

• The power of "just one thing" — how small actions rebuild momentum
• Staying informed without being overwhelmed by the news cycle
• The importance of telling people what they mean to you now — not waiting for a funeral card
• Finding hope in the small things — spring, daffodils, and a good casserole (even if you can't taste it)

Honest, funny, and deeply human — this is the episode that reminds you you're not alone when life gets in the way.

🎧 *Listen now, and let Lee and Michelle know: what do YOU do when life just happens?*

Find Lee at:

• Website: https://welshotimaging.co.uk/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leeatwelshot/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lee.iggulden

Find Michelle at:

• Web: https://www.thinkingspacecoaching.com/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingspacecoaching/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmichellerogers/