Description

Most organizations don't struggle because leaders lack intelligence.

They struggle because the conversations happening publicly are often different from the conversations happening privately. By the time culture issues, succession problems, declining performance, or strategic misalignment become visible, the warning signs have usually been there for much longer.

In this episode of Deals with Heels, Debra Bowers sits down with internationally recognized executive advisor, leadership strategist, and board consultant Liz Weber to explore what experienced leaders notice beneath the surface—and why the hardest leadership conversations are often the ones that matter most.

Together they discuss accountability, organizational culture, communication, difficult decisions, leadership clarity, and why so many organizations mistake symptoms for the real problem.

Whether you're leading a business, managing a team, or preparing for your next level of leadership, this conversation will challenge how you think about performance, trust, and sustainable growth.

Key Topics

- What experienced leaders notice before problems become visible

- The hidden conversations shaping organizational culture

- Leadership accountability versus being "mean"

- Why organizations often solve symptoms instead of root causes

- The connection between communication and organizational trust

- Sales culture is bigger than the sales department

- Helping employees understand how their role contributes to growth

- Why leaders avoid difficult conversations

- Cross-functional collaboration and breaking down departmental silos

- How culture, leadership, and strategy work together

Resources

Connect with Liz Weber

Website

https://www.wbsllc.com/

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizwebercmc/

Executive leadership consulting, board advisory, strategic planning, and organizational development.

Connect with Debra Bowers

LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-bowers/

Free Resource – 5 Signs Your Growth Is Breaking
https://5signs.thegrowthvanguard.com/

Free Resource - The Human Sales Playbook
https://thegrowthvanguard.com/free-ebook

The Growth Vanguard
https://thegrowthvanguard.com/

Hexagon Media
https://hexagonmedia.net/

Stay Connected with Deals with Heels

If this conversation resonated with you, share it with a leader, founder, or colleague who needs to hear it.

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Description

Today's conversation explores what happens when leadership, ethics, and uncertainty collide.

It's easy to talk about values when business is thriving. The real test comes when pressure increases, budgets tighten, technology changes, and difficult decisions have to be made.

In this episode, Debra sits down with business strategist Jennifer Gligoric to discuss ethical leadership, AI adoption, transparency, trust, layoffs, and the responsibility leaders have to the people they serve.

Together they explore:

• Why ethics matter most during uncertainty
• The difference between automation and expertise
• The hidden risks of over-relying on AI
• How leaders can maintain trust during difficult transitions
• What transparency really looks like
• Why culture is shaped by leadership decisions
• How to navigate change without abandoning your values

This conversation is ultimately about leadership, responsibility, and what it means to remain human in an increasingly automated world.

Key Topics

• Leadership under pressure

• Ethical decision-making

• AI and business leadership

• Trust and transparency

• Company culture

• Leadership communication

• Economic uncertainty

• Technology and human expertise

• Workplace trust

• Leadership accountability

• Business ethics

• Organizational change

Connect with Jennifer Gligoric

Super Clinic Project
https://superclinicproject.com

Hyperwave Medical
https://hyperwavemedical.com

Business coaching, clinic growth strategy, and operational support for healthcare and wellness business owners.

Connect with Debra Bowers our host

LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-bowers/

Free Resource – 5 Signs Your Growth Is Breaking
https://5signs.thegrowthvanguard.com/

The Human Sales Playbook
https://thegrowthvanguard.com/free-ebook

The Growth Vanguard
https://thegrowthvanguard.com/

Hexagon Media
https://hexagonmedia.net/

Stay Connected with Deals with Heels

If this conversation resonated with you, share it with a leader, founder, or colleague who needs to hear it.

Deals with Heels is where we explore the human side of leadership, growth, sales, decision-making, and the moments that shape who we become as leaders.

Follow the show so you never miss an episode, and if you're enjoying these conversations, please leave a review. Your reviews help more listeners discover the show and support our ability to bring thoughtful, meaningful conversations to a wider audience.

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Until next time, stand strong in your power—especially when it gets uncomfortable.

Episode Description

Growth is often portrayed as the goal.

More revenue. More customers. More opportunity.

But behind the scenes, growth can create something much heavier: more decisions, more pressure, more complexity, and more responsibility resting on the shoulders of leaders and founders.

In this episode of Deals with Heels, Debra Bowers sits down with fractional COO and revenue operations strategist Lauren Zaslansky Conner to explore what really happens during the messy middle of growth.

Together they discuss founder bottlenecks, decision fatigue, operational complexity, change management, team empowerment, customer experience, burnout, and why many organizations struggle not because of a lack of opportunity, but because their systems, processes, and leadership capacity haven't evolved alongside their growth.

Lauren shares practical insights from years of helping growing organizations create structure, improve communication, and navigate change without sacrificing their people in the process.

If you've ever felt overwhelmed by growth, stuck in constant decision-making, or frustrated by organizational friction, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at what sustainable growth actually requires.

Key Topics

• The hidden weight of growth and leadership

• The messy middle of business growth

• Why founders become organizational bottlenecks

• Decision fatigue and leadership overwhelm

• Growth versus operational readiness

• The connection between sales, operations, and customer experience

• Why organizations struggle with change management

• Empowering employees without creating confusion

• The role of systems, documentation, and process clarity

• Why retention is often more valuable than acquisition

• Communication breakdowns during growth

• The dangers of burnout by example

• Leadership modeling and workplace culture

• Unlimited PTO, vacation culture, and employee well-being

• Why businesses aren't families—and why that distinction matters

• Building sustainable growth through clarity and intentional leadership

Resources

Connect with Our Guest, Lauren Zaslansky Conner

ZAZ Business Solutions
Helping growing organizations navigate the messy middle of growth through operational clarity, strategic planning, revenue operations, and sustainable systems.

Website:
https://zazbusinesssolutions.com

LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenzaslanskyconner

Interested in exploring what's creating friction in your growth or operations? Lauren welcomes conversations with founders and leaders navigating periods of change, scale, and organizational complexity.

Connect with Debra Bowers & Stay Connected with Deals with HeelsLinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-bowers/

Free Resource – 5 Signs Your Growth Is Breaking:
https://5signs.thegrowthvanguard.com/

The Human Sales Playbook:
https://thegrowthvanguard.com/free-ebook

The Growth Vanguard:
https://thegrowthvanguard.com/

Hexagon Media:
https://hexagonmedia.net/

If this conversation resonated with you, share it with a leader, founder, or colleague who needs to hear it.

Deals with Heels is where we explore the human side of leadership, growth, sales, decision-making, and the moments that shape who we become as leaders.

Follow the show so you never miss an episode, and if you're enjoying these conversations, please leave a review. Your reviews help more listeners discover the show and support our ability to bring thoughtful, meaningful conversations to a wider audience.

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📢 Share this episode with someone who could benefit from the conversation

Until next time, stand strong in your power—especially when it gets uncomfortable.