Eli poses a discussion topic for the dads that they somehow have not talked about before. Let's talk about virginity - the pressure to lose yours, to pressure to take it from someone else, and how toxic masculinity and the manosphere intersect with it all. Also, how do kids define "bases" these days?!

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Pretty sure this is the first episode where the dads touch on adoption, and we have a great listener email to kick off discussion about a particular aspect of creating an adoptive family.

And since we kicked off the episode talking about optimism and pessimism, please be sure to chime in on the comment thread below or in the Facebook group with your position on whether you are a "hope for the best" kind of person or an "expect to be disappointed" person!

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Tom gives us a health update of his own that is WILD and exactly what we've come to expect and love about our Tom; then, the dads answer a listener email involving choice paralysis and how to help our kids, if it's something they experience, through it. Personally, I blame the Grail Knight scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade for mine. "He chose...poorly."

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