Retired NYPD detective Mark Pucci and psychic medium Kiersten Hathcock share how they've partnered for over a decade solving cold cases and finding missing people when police departments gave up.

Kiersten, an entrepreneur who had appeared on Shark Tank, was shocked when she got contacted by a boy who had passed away. She was even more shocked when what she got was verified. Her scientific brain tried explaining everything away until she started physically seeing deceased people.

Mark was working a missing person case when the widow asked if he'd talk to a medium in Arizona. He said absolutely. When they met at a New York City restaurant and compared notes, Kiersten's information matched his investigation in ways she couldn't have known.

One morning Kiersten called Mark at 4am sensing he was in danger, with a warning that possibly saved his life. What happened next changed the entire trajectory of the case.

Liz, Mark, and Kiersten discuss how Mark validates psychic information, what it feels like for Kiersten to receive messages from the deceased versus the living, how they've worked on cases ranging from missing indigenous women to homicides misclassified as suicides.

They explain story and meaning behinbd the non-profit they cofounded, the National Institute for Law and Justice.

Guests: Kiersten Hathcock + Mark Pucci

Kiersten Hathcock
Author Website: Kierstenhathcock.com
Speaker Website: Kierstenhathcockspeaker.com

NIJL - Non-profit
Website: https://nilj.org/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/niljnonprofit/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NILJnonprofit/

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