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Difference Makers

Difference Makers

By: Hosts: Pete Upton Brian Edwards Elyse Wild | Producers: Native CDFI Network Tribal Business News
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Difference Makers is a podcast series from the Native CDFI Network and Tribal Business News that explores how Native community development financial institutions (CDFIs) are reshaping the future of tribal economies — one loan, one partnership, one bold idea at a time.





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Episodes
  • Why Only Three?
    Jun 18 2026

    California is home to the largest Native population in the United States and 109 federally recognized tribes. Yet only three Native CDFIs currently operate in the state.

    Recorded during and after the 2026 California CDFI Summit in Sacramento, this episode explores the effort to strengthen existing Native CDFIs, support the creation of new Native-led financial institutions and expand access to capital in Native communities throughout California.

    Guests and voices in this episode:

    • Nate Schaffran, California Coalition for Community Investment (CalCCI)
    • Teresa Boardman, Five Rivers Loan Fund, Inc.
    • Pete Upton, Native CDFI Network
    • Jodi Fischer, Native CDFI Network
    • Jessica Kaczmarek, The James Irvine Foundation

    Resources and Links

    Native CDFI Network
    https://nativecdfi.net

    RISE Initiative (Native CDFI Network)
    https://nativecdfi.net/rise

    California Coalition for Community Investment
    https://www.calcii.org

    Five Rivers Loan Fund
    https://www.fiveriversloanfund.org

    The James Irvine Foundation
    https://www.irvine.org

    Tribal Business News
    https://tribalbusinessnews.com

    Difference Makers explores how Native community development financial institutions (CDFIs) are expanding economic opportunity across Indian Country. From small business lending and homeownership to consumer loans, financial education, and technical assistance, Native CDFIs provide the capital and support that help Native communities build stronger local economies.

    Join the Native CDFI Network and Tribal Business News as they spotlight the people, partnerships, and ideas driving economic change in Native communities.

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    26 mins
  • The Treasurer Visits Blackfeet
    May 21 2026

    U.S. Treasurer Brandon Beach recently traveled to the Blackfeet Indian Reservation in Browning, Montana, for his first trip to Montana since taking office — part of a broader swing through Indian Country that also included visits to the Flathead and Coeur d’Alene reservations.

    In Episode 6 of Difference Makers 3.0, Brian Edwards and Native CDFI Network CEO Pete Upton sit down with Beach after a day of touring Native-owned businesses, meeting with tribal leaders and Native lenders, and attending a regional gathering hosted by Native CDFI Network and NACDC Financial Services.

    The conversation explores infrastructure, banking access, broadband connectivity, private investment, federal contracting and the barriers tribes still face attracting outside capital.

    Beach also discusses why he believes tribes possess major economic advantages many policymakers still underestimate — including sovereignty, entrepreneurial energy and cultural ties that encourage younger citizens to return home.

    Along the way, the episode touches on Native CDFIs, financial literacy, diversification beyond gaming and the challenge of building long-term economic growth in rural reservation communities.

    Show Notes:

    Native CDFI Network
    https://nativecdfi.net/

    NACDC Financial Services
    https://nacdcfinancialservices.com/

    Tribal Business News
    https://tribalbusinessnews.com/

    U.S. Treasury Office of Tribal and Native Affairs
    https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/tribal-affairs

    Difference Makers explores how Native community development financial institutions (CDFIs) are expanding economic opportunity across Indian Country. From small business lending and homeownership to consumer loans, financial education, and technical assistance, Native CDFIs provide the capital and support that help Native communities build stronger local economies.

    Join the Native CDFI Network and Tribal Business News as they spotlight the people, partnerships, and ideas driving economic change in Native communities.

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    22 mins
  • The Next Builders
    May 4 2026

    There are about 65 certified Native community development financial institutions (CDFIs) in the United States — roughly the same number as a decade ago.

    But that’s starting to change.

    In Episode 5 of Difference Makers 3.0, Brian Edwards speaks with leaders building new Native CDFIs in Oklahoma, Hawai‘i and the Northeast — part of a growing wave of more than 30 emerging efforts working to expand access to capital in communities that still don’t have it.

    The episode features Kristen Wagner of the Native CDFI Network, along with Riley Logsdon and Chris Coburn of the Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes Community Development Corporation, Olani Lilly of Changemakers Community Economic Development, and Alexander “Brave Journey” Sterling of Turtle Island Community Capital.

    Together, their stories show how the next generation of Native CDFIs is taking shape — not through a single model, but through approaches grounded in the needs, values and realities of the communities they serve.

    In Oklahoma, a tribally affiliated lending organization is building toward certification while expanding access to small business and consumer lending in communities where predatory lending remains common.

    In Hawai‘i, a community development organization is using finance as one tool within a broader, relationship-based approach — rooted in culture, community and long-term resilience.

    And in the Northeast, a new Native CDFI effort is identifying significant unmet demand in a region that has historically lacked access to Native-led capital, with one estimate pointing to at least $180 million in investable opportunities.

    In this episode:

    • Why the number of Native CDFIs has remained relatively flat — and what’s changing
    • How more than 30 emerging Native CDFIs are working toward certification
    • What it takes to build a Native CDFI from the ground up
    • How tribally affiliated lending models are developing in Oklahoma
    • Why consumer lending matters in communities facing predatory lending
    • How Native Hawaiian leaders are rethinking finance as a relationship-based system
    • The scale of unmet demand for capital in regions like the Northeast
    • What drives the next generation of Native CDFI leaders

    Reading & Resources

    🔗 Native CDFI Network RISE Initiative
    https://nativecdfi.net/institute/ncn-ris

    🔗 Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes Community Development Corporation
    https://cheyenneandarapahocdc.org/

    🔗 Changemakers Community Economic Development
    https://changemakershawaii.org/

    🔗 Turtle Island Community Capital
    https://turtleislandcommunitycapital.org/

    Difference Makers explores how Native community development financial institutions (CDFIs) are expanding economic opportunity across Indian Country. From small business lending and homeownership to consumer loans, financial education, and technical assistance, Native CDFIs provide the capital and support that help Native communities build stronger local economies.

    Join the Native CDFI Network and Tribal Business News as they spotlight the people, partnerships, and ideas driving economic change in Native communities.

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    19 mins
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