Nadia and Rob welcome Brandon Sammut and Maggie Roque of AI-orchestration platform Zapier to talk about the practical skills learned from DEI (what Zapier calls 'DIBE') that translate to AI transformation, why all transformations are about leaders, talent & culture, and the underrated role consistency plays in building organizational trust. The team also reviews the EEOC's escalation against Nike's DEI efforts and a California lawsuit against HR hiring platform Eightfold.ai. Later, Pete Hegseth threatens Cub Scout funding and Nadia reflects on Bad Bunny's halftime glory.

Story 1: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/business/eeoc-nike-white-employee-discrimination.html

Story 2: https://hrexecutive.com/eightfold-ai-bias-suit-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/?oly_enc_id=6122G2643790C2Z

Connect with Brandon Sammut: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-sammut-8147b76/

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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