How do you navigate the world after the murder of your child?

John is joined by Esther Ghey, mother of Brianna Ghey who was murdered in 2023. Following her daughter’s death, Esther found herself confronting an online world filled with hostility and harm.

Esther shares how her own past has shaped her capacity for compassion, and how mindfulness became a lifeline in the aftermath of her daughter’s death. Now, Esther is campaigning for phone-free schools, and shares urgent insights for parents navigating the difficulties of the online world.

Esther’s book Under a Pink Sky is available now.

You can find out more about Esther’s campaigning work via Phone Free Education and Brianna Ghey Legacy Project

There’ll be more from Esther on Thursday in our bonus episode, The Gratitude List, where she shares the five things she’s most grateful for right now.

If you need support, you can find advice and someone to talk to by visiting Mind and Samaritans

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