“Love is not enough.”

That might be the most uncomfortable truth couples need to hear.

In this powerful episode of Fight for Love, Michael and Gillian sit down with Dr. Spirit — psychologist, healer, and mother of seven — to unpack:

• Why trauma follows us into relationships

• The real reason marriages decline over time

• Emotional intimacy vs just “doing life” together

• Why men are struggling in today’s relationship landscape

• Social media — medicine or poison?

• Why scheduling intimacy can actually save your marriage

• The difference between surviving and thriving

• Why vulnerability is strength — not weakness

• What healthy masculinity actually looks like

Dr. Spirit breaks down her “RISES” framework for intimacy — the blueprint for relationships that don’t just last… but grow.

Michael speaks candidly about breaking generational cycles, evolving as a man, and becoming the partner your spouse would be foolish to walk away from.

This isn’t surface-level love talk.

This is about:

Healing.

Intentionality.

Evolution.

And building something that rises.

Because this is what we fight for.

We fight for love.

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⏱️ CHAPTERS

0:00 – Welcome Dr. Spirit

4:45 – The Stigma Around Therapy in Our Community

9:12 – Social Media: Medicine or Poison?

16:50 – Why Everyone Thinks Their Opinion Is Equal

23:10 – The Evolution of Masculinity

31:20 – Stop Living Event to Event

38:40 – Love Is Not Enough

43:15 – The RISES Intimacy Framework

51:00 – Why Couples Become Roommates

1:00:30 – Schedule Intimacy (Yes, Really)

1:08:45 – Long Distance Relationships & Support

1:16:00 – Vulnerability Is Strength