Deep dive into the stories behind the picture books with award-winning Australian author/illustrator Zeno Sworder.

In this conversation with Zeno I do not talk about the experiences of neurodivergent children or their parents. I am currently researching and learning more about neurodivergence but the stories and advice in this podcast episode may not be relevant to families navigating neurodiversity.

This episode was recorded on Gadigal and Wurundjeri Lands.

Books, films and humans mentioned

• Once I was a Giant (2025) by Zeno Sworder This Small Blue Dot (2021) by Zeno Sworder
• My Strange Shrinking Parents (2023) by Zeno Sworder
• The Red Tree (2001) by Shaun Tan
• The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
• The Maze Runner (2009) by James Kushner
• Divergent Trilogy by Veronica Roth
• Ready Player One (2011) by Ernest Cline
• The Hunger Games Series by Suzanne Collins
• Terminator books
• Waterworld (1995) (film)
• The Day After Tomorrow (1994) by Allan Folsom
• NBC News
• Little People, BIG Dreams series
• Michelangelo (sculptor and painter)
• Dr Seuss (author/illustrator)
• The Happy Prince (1888) by Oscar Wilde
• Need a House Call Ms Mouse (2022) By George Mendoza, illustrated by Doris Susan Smith
• Du Iz Taz (2016) by Carson Ellis
• The Incredible Painting of Felix Clousseau (1988) by Jon Agee
• I Can Explain (2022) by Shinsuke Yoshitake

More from Zeno:

• zenosworder.com
• @zenosworder