James D. White and Krista White, authors of the bestselling book "Culture Design" stop by to discuss how leaders can build high-performing organizations intentionally, why culture may be more important than strategy. Nadia and Rob also check out the latest survey on Gen Zs attitudes towards gender roles and they check in on all of the signs of weakness in the economy. Later, Nadia rants about the return of bias on airplanes and Rob gives an art recommendation.

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