Every year, millions of professionals send out hundreds of applications, get almost nowhere, and decide the problem is their resume. It's not.

Referrals make up just 7% of applicants but account for 40% of hires, and the gap between those two numbers comes down to one thing: conversations.

In this episode, two professionals who had no plan, no clear direction, and no obvious path forward used test drive conversations to find meaningful work and career change success when nothing else was moving.

What You'll Learn in This Episode:

• Why test drive conversations work when job applications don't, and the data behind why referrals account for 40% of hires while most people trying to change careers never tap into them
• How Shreya used informational interviews to go from stuck in the wrong career to landing a role she loves, and what her career change success story teaches anyone who doesn't know what they want yet
• The Social Goldilocks Method for career networking that Travis used to break into the toys and games industry from a completely unrelated background, and how to use the same approach to find meaningful work in any field
• What test drive conversations are actually teaching you about yourself, the career clarity and signature strengths you can only uncover by talking to real people, and why no amount of job searching online can replicate it

Our book, Happen To Your Career: An Unconventional Approach To Career Change and Meaningful Work, is now available on audiobook! Visit happentoyourcareer.com/audible to order it now! Visit happentoyourcareer.com/book for more information or buy the print or ebook here!

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Career Change Guide - Learn how high-performers discover their ideal career and find meaningful, well-paid work without starting over.

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Scott Ingham spent 18 years in pharmaceutical sales before deciding to make a career change after 50. When he told people, the response was almost uniform: "You're crazy."

That pushback wasn't useful advice. It was projection of other people's fears dressed up as concern. It's also one of five beliefs that keep professionals over 50 stuck in roles they've already outgrown.

According to data, 85% of employers now hire based on skills, not credentials. 53% have dropped degree requirements entirely. The average new hire today is 42 years old. And 80% of career changers report they're glad they made the move with the most common regret being how long they waited.

If one of these five beliefs has been running quietly in the background of a decision you haven't made yet, this episode is worth your time.

What you'll learn

• Why the pushback you get from people around you when considering a career change after 50 isn't advice — and what it actually is
• What skills-based hiring really means for professionals with 20+ years of experience and why the market timing right now may be better than it's ever been
• The hidden cost of staying in a role that no longer fits and why the financial math of not changing rarely holds up

Our book, Happen To Your Career: An Unconventional Approach To Career Change and Meaningful Work, is now available on audiobook! Visit happentoyourcareer.com/audible to order it now! Visit happentoyourcareer.com/book for more information or buy the print or ebook here!

Want to chat with our team about your unique situation? Schedule a conversation

Free Resources

What career fits you? Join our free 8 Day Mini Course to figure it out!

Career Change Guide - Learn how high-performers discover their ideal career and find meaningful, well-paid work without starting over.

Related Episodes

1. Six Career Experiments To Help You Discover Your Ideal New Role (Spotify / Apple Podcasts)
2. An Overthinker's Guide To Making Better Career Decisions (Spotify /Apple Podcasts)

Hayley Lowe had a textbook career pivot from her communications degree and agency life to a senior leadership role at a company like Expedia. Everything was going according to plan until burnout, infertility, a pandemic, and one very wrong Fortune 500 job forced her to rebuild from scratch.

What she found on the other side wasn't a posted role. It was one she designed herself.
Through coaching, she built an Ideal Career Profile that made it obvious why her last job had been wrong and exactly what right would look like.

In this episode, Hayley shares what it took to trust her gut sooner, how she negotiated a role that didn't exist yet, and what work finally feels like when it's built around who you actually are.

What you'll learn

• What happens when you take a job that looks right on paper and know it's wrong on Day 1 and what to do about it fast
• How Hayley used her Ideal Career Profile to reverse-engineer a Chief of Staff role at a company she already trusted
• Why the best career opportunities are rarely posted — and how to position yourself to co-create the role you actually want

Our book, Happen To Your Career: An Unconventional Approach To Career Change and Meaningful Work, is now available on audiobook! Visit happentoyourcareer.com/audible to order it now! Visit happentoyourcareer.com/book for more information or buy the print or ebook here!

Want to chat with our team about your unique situation? Schedule a conversation

Free Resources

What career fits you? Join our free 8 Day Mini Course to figure it out!

Career Change Guide - Learn how high-performers discover their ideal career and find meaningful, well-paid work without starting over.

Related Episodes

1. Executive Burnout: Making A Midlife Career Change (Spotify / Apple Podcasts)
2. Stuck in a Career You're Unhappy With? Fear Of Taking Risks Could Be Keeping You There (Spotify / Apple Podcasts)