What are you a snob about? And what are you a geek about?

In this episode, we're exploring the things we care deeply about, from travel and luggage to glassware, hotel rooms, technology, and everyday routines. We talk about the difference between being a "snob"—having a strong preference for one thing above all else—and being a "geek"—having a genuine passion for something.

Along the way, we share some of our quirks, habits, and strong opinions, including why hotel rooms matter, the great backpack debate, spotless kitchens, well-manicured yards, deadheading flowers, and our favorite travel rituals.

Plus, Shannon makes a fresh Summer Avocado Salad, and Tracy mixes a Chilton, a refreshing cocktail with a loyal following of its own.

Chef Shannon's Recipe: Avocado Summer Salad

What do people say about you when you're not in the room?

In this episode, we explore the idea of personal brand, not as a logo or social media presence, but as the way people experience you and what they say about you when you're not in the room.

We talk about why personal brand is a choice and how intentionality shapes the way we show up as friends, partners, grandparents, leaders, and business owners. We share the qualities we hope people remember—kindness, loyalty, curiosity, generosity, and inspiration—and why we want others to leave our presence believing it's never too late to become who they're meant to be.

Plus, Shannon makes a Farro Salad, and Tracy mixes a Mezcal Aperol Sour to pair with the conversation.

Shannon's Recipe: Farro Salad