The $140K poverty line, women Lean Out, and 2026 essential skills for leaders with Michele Kawamoto Perry

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The $140K poverty line, women Lean Out, and 2026 essential skills for leaders with Michele Kawamoto Perry

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Michele Kawamoto Perry of the Forward Project, joins Nadia and Rob to reflect on the year in leadership that was 2025 and to help us think about what will matter most in 2026. Nadia and Rob also check out an investment analysts' assessment that the federal poverty line should be $140K and discuss the latest McKinsey/Lean In survey on the state of women in the workplace. Later, the rare double rant Nadia rants SHRM's less than model employer behavior and Rob cheers on Costco.Articles referenced in the show:Poverty Line: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/12/03/poverty-line-140000-green-affordability-inflation/87573416007/Mckinsey/Lean in: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-12-09/why-are-women-leaning-out-of-workplace-advancement?utm_source=chatgpt.comConnect with Michele: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelekawamotoperry/⁠Learn more about The Forward Project: www.theforwardproject.coLearn more about Expressions of Leadership Podcast:https://www.linkedin.com/company/expressions-of-leadership-show/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/expressions-of-leadership/id1787230408https://open.spotify.com/show/47UGcBb1aMOBA4wqvIuZI0Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing Connect with us: Visit http://www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy. Send us your thoughts or topic ideas at inclusivecollectivepodcast@gmail.comFollow Inclusive Collective LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/inclusivecollective/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@inclusivecollectivepodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inclusivecollectivepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InclusiveCollective/ Connect with Nadia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadianazbutt/ Connect with Rob: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hadley-utah/

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