Today, we are joined by Norman Ng, the co-founder of Hong Kong-based multi-disciplinary design studio, DEFT (Design 852).In this episode, we explore Norman’s fascinating journey from studying art in the UK to launching his own architecture firm at just 27 years old. We dive deep into what it takes to design for high-density cities like Hong Kong, sharing the creative tricks behind making micro-apartments not just livable, but comfortable. We also discuss DEFT's unique, carefree company culture, their expansion into the Philippines, and why embracing AI is the next crucial step for designers and architects who want to stay relevant. Finally, we share our thoughts on the future of housing and why community-centric co-living might be here to stay.Topics Covered:

• The origin of Norman’s surname and his early years balancing art and architecture
• Taking the leap to start DEFT at age 27 with co-founder Peter Lampard
• Why DEFT handles architecture, interiors, and branding all under one roof
• How AI is reshaping the design industry (and why human "soul" still matters)

• Design hacks for micro-apartments and the reality of high-density living
• The long-term future of co-living in expensive urban hubs

-Building an international studio culture between Hong Kong and the Philippines