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The ITSPmagazine Podcast

The ITSPmagazine Podcast

By: ITSPmagazine Sean Martin Marco Ciappelli
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 Founded in 2015, ITSPmagazine began as a vision for a publication positioned at the critical intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. What started as a written publication has evolved into a comprehensive repository for all their content—podcasts, articles, event coverage, interviews, videos, panels, and everything they create. This is where Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli talk about cybersecurity, technology, society, music, storytelling, branding, conference coverage, and whatever else catches their attention. Over a decade of conversations exploring how these worlds collide, influence each other, and shape the human experience. This is where you'll find it all.© Copyright 2015-2026 ITSPmagazine, Inc. All Rights Reserved Politics & Government Social Sciences
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  • The Vendor You Cannot Name | Lens Four by Sean Martin | Read by TAPE9

    The Vendor You Cannot Name | Lens Four by Sean Martin | Read by TAPE9
    May 11 2026
    ⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ The most dangerous sentence in cybersecurity disclosure right now is "no evidence of unauthorized access to our network." It is technically true. It is also operationally hollow. The customer whose data is on a leak site does not care which network it left from. The plaintiff in Bexar County does not care. The regulator about to receive a federal incident report under a 72-hour clock that starts at suspicion, not confirmation, will not care. In April 2026, two U.S. banks disclosed an incident at the same unnamed third-party vendor. Six class action lawsuits followed in two weeks. The vendor still has not been publicly named. The plaintiffs sued the banks anyway. In a separate situation, an alleged Adobe breach surfaced through a threat actor's claims about a third-party business process outsourcing firm -- and as of the coverage reviewed for this analysis, no public confirmation or denial from Adobe had surfaced. This is the Common Point of Failure pattern, and it is arriving with enough frequency that it deserves to be named clearly. 🔍 In this edition of Lens Four: — Why "no evidence of unauthorized access to our network" leaves the data, the contract, and the customer out of the picture — and why that omission is doing real damage as regulators, plaintiffs, and customers all collapse the distinction between "our network" and "their network" — How the proposed CIRCIA rule's "reasonable belief" trigger changes the operating math when the suspected source is a third party: the 72-hour clock starts when the SOC analyst flags, not when the legal team confirms — What the NYDFS October 21 2025 industry letter on third-party service providers tells covered entities to do — and how the regulator's prescriptive guidance becomes the de facto checklist for audits, examinations, and enforcement — Why the cyber insurance market, per Woodruff Sawyer's annual Cyber Looking Ahead Guide, is now functioning as a verification mechanism — and why the underwriter and the regulator are now the ones shaping what gets bought, not the threat — Verizon's own analysis of its 2025 Data Breach Investigations Report — drawing on more than 22,000 incidents — found the share of breaches involving a third party doubled year over year, from 15% to 30% — Three things the network sentence leaves out: the data (where it lived, how it was stored, what controls applied), the operating model (how a vendor came to have enough access to produce customer harm), and the chain of accountability (the contractual relationship between named brand and unnamed vendor) — Why the vendor concentration the industry has been selling as "consolidation" for two decades is also the thing concentrating blast radius — and why discovery in the class actions, not voluntary disclosure, is the most likely path to actually naming the vendors — Two CISO conversations the Fourth Lens draws on: Tim Brown on what carries a security leader through the worst day of their career (trust built before the trust was needed, context, perspective, communication), and Joe Sullivan on building cyber teams the way fire departments are built — one team on the go, one on standby, one resting — The Fourth Lens: the program reality is that the named brand is accountable for things happening at a vendor it cannot directly control; the market reality is that the regulator and the insurer have already written the checklist; the messaging reality is that the disclosure language has not caught up to either Fourth Lens: The vendor whose name you do not know is the vendor whose risk you cannot manage. The fix is not in the disclosure language. It is in the operating model the disclosure language is currently helping to obscure. The next twelve to eighteen months — through the first CIRCIA enforcement action, the first court-ordered discovery that names a CPOF vendor, and whatever the next shared-vendor breach turns out to be — will start writing the answer to what a security program is actually for when the breach happens somewhere you cannot reach. 🔗 Full article and references: https://seanmartin.com/lens-four/the-vendor-you-cannot-name 📧 Subscribe to Lens Four: https://seanmartin.com/lens-four 🎙 Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: https://redefiningcybersecuritypodcast.com 🎧 Music Evolves Podcast: https://musicevolvespodcast.com 🌐 ITSPmagazine: https://itspmagazine.com 🎬 Studio C60: https://studioc60.com Sean Martin is a cybersecurity market analyst, content strategist, and go-to-market advisor with more than 30 years of experience across engineering, product development, marketing, and media. He is co-founder of ITSPmagazine (itspmagazine.com) and Studio C60 (studioc60.com), host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast (redefiningcybersecuritypodcast.com) and Music Evolves Podcast (musicevolvespodcast.com), and co-host of On Location (itspmagazine.com/on-location) and Random and Unscripted (randomandunscripted.com...
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    12 mins
  • The Artemis Generation (feat. Dr. Polanski, Lowell Observatory) | Moon To Mars | Stories From Space Podcast With Matthew S Williams

    The Artemis Generation (feat. Dr. Polanski, Lowell Observatory) | Moon To Mars | Stories From Space Podcast With Matthew S Williams
    May 11 2026

    Host | Matthew S Williams

    For more podcast Stories from Space with Matthew S Williams, visit: https://itspmagazine.com/stories-from-space-podcast

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    Episode Notes

    From Apollo to Artemis: What Lowell Observatory Knows About Going Back to the Moon

    Fifty years is a long time to forget how to do something. That is, more or less, where NASA stood when Artemis 1 left the pad — and where it stands now, with Artemis 2 having put humans beyond low Earth orbit for the first time in half a century. The institutional memory had thinned. The people who built Apollo had moved on, retired, or passed away. The books, as Dr. Alex Polanski puts it in this episode, had to be dusted off.

    Polanski, a Percival Lowell postdoctoral fellow at Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona, joins host Matt to talk about what Artemis 2 actually proved, and why Lowell — an observatory better known for its exoplanet work and its founder's obsession with Mars — has always sat closer to crewed spaceflight than most people realize. The nine Apollo astronauts trained on the volcanic terrain of northern Arizona. They studied lunar maps made at Lowell. They walked the same ground tourists walk today, in the shadow of the Clark refractor.

    The conversation moves from the geology of the Moon's Highlands and Maria to the meteorite work of Dr. Nick Moskowitz, the mapping happening at the USGS office down the road, and the longer question behind all of it: is the Moon a stepping stone to Mars, or a detour? Polanski makes the case for the stepping stone — not out of caution, but because there are things we don't yet know we need to know, and a one-second light delay is a much more forgiving classroom than a twenty-minute one.

    And then there's what comes next. Radio telescopes in the craters of the far side, shielded from Earth's noise. Optical interferometers spread across lunar real estate, free of the atmospheric wobble that makes ground-based astronomy feel, in Polanski's words, like reading a note card at the bottom of a pool. For the first time, the possibility of actually seeing the surfaces of other stars.

    Percival Lowell saw canals on Mars that weren't there. He may have been looking at the veins in his own eye. A century later, his observatory is helping figure out how to look at the real thing.

    🎙️ Guest: Dr. Alex Polanski, Lowell Observatory 🌐 lowell.edu

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    Resources

    Dr. Alex Polanski's Twitter
    https://x.com/AlexNeedsSpace

    Dr. Alex Polanski's company
    https://x.com/LowellObs

    Dr. Alex Polanski's LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-polanski-9ba397113/

    Dr. Alex Polanski's Facebook profile
    https://www.facebook.com/alex.polanski.3

    Moon to Mars / NASA's Artemis Program
    https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/artemis/

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    For more podcast Stories from Space with Matthew S Williams, visit: https://itspmagazine.com/stories-from-space-podcast


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    35 mins
  • Book: Deep Future — Creating Technology That Matters | An Interview with Pablos Holman | An Analog Brain In A Digital Age With Marco Ciappelli

    Book: Deep Future — Creating Technology That Matters | An Interview with Pablos Holman | An Analog Brain In A Digital Age With Marco Ciappelli
    May 4 2026
    PODCAST EPISODE | An Analog Brain In A Digital Age With Marco Ciappelli Pablos Holman has built spaceships, zapped malaria-carrying mosquitoes with a laser, earned thousands of patents, and is now betting his venture capital on the inventors Silicon Valley forgot to fund. His new book, Deep Future: Creating Technology That Matters, is a call to arms against a tech industry that got drunk on software and forgot about the other 98% of the world. 📺 Watch | 🎙️ Listen | marcociappelli.com I grew up in a city full of inventors. They just didn't call themselves that. Florence in the fifteenth century wasn't running on venture capital. It was running on curiosity, obsession, and the refusal to accept that the way things had always been done was the way they had to be done. Leonardo didn't have a manual. Galileo didn't ask for permission before pointing a better telescope at the sky. They took things apart, looked at what was inside, and put them back together differently. They hacked things. That's Pablos Holman's word — and when he used it in our conversation, I recognized it immediately. Not as a tech industry term. As something much older. A way of being in the world that says: the instructions are a suggestion, not a ceiling. Pablos has had one of those careers that resists a tidy summary. He was writing code in Alaska as a kid, with one of the first Apples ever made and nobody around to teach him anything. He figured it out on his own — and never really stopped doing that. Cryptocurrency in the '90s. AI research before anyone called it that. Helping build spaceships at Blue Origin. Then years at the Intellectual Ventures Lab with Nathan Myhrvold, going after problems Silicon Valley had decided weren't worth the trouble: a laser that identifies and destroys malaria-carrying mosquitoes in flight, hurricane suppression systems, a nuclear reactor powered by nuclear waste. Six thousand patents. Thirty million TED Talk views. Now he runs a venture fund called Deep Future, and he's written a book with the same name. The subtitle says what he thinks about most of what Silicon Valley has been doing for the past two decades. Creating Technology That Matters. He calls the alternative shallow tech. Apps that replace taxis. Apps to rent a stranger's couch. Apps to have weed delivered by drone. Not useless, exactly — but not living up to what we actually have. And what we actually have, Pablos says, is the best toolkit in all of human history: more people, more education, more resources, more raw scientific understanding than any generation before us. If all that produces another chat app, something has gone badly wrong. The number he threw out in our conversation — and I'm going to mention it here because it deserves to be mentioned, not as a hook but as a quiet scandal — is that all the software companies in the world combined, every single one of them, account for about two percent of global GDP. The other ninety-eight is energy, shipping, food, manufacturing, construction, automotive. Industries that haven't fundamentally changed in a century. Industries that software can nudge a few percent better but cannot make ten times better. Ten times better is where Pablos starts. One of his portfolio companies is building autonomous sailing cargo ships — no crew, no fuel, no emissions — targeting a two-trillion-dollar industry that currently burns half its revenue on fuel. He's also continuing the malaria work that could save half a million lives a year, half of them children under five. That's the scale he's measuring things against. We got to AI eventually, as you do. What he said landed simply and cleanly: chatting is the least important thing we can do with it. What we should be using AI for is understanding things that were previously too complex to model — what's happening in every cell of your body, how to actually get a grip on the climate, how to start solving the problems that have been resistant to every tool that came before. Instead we are using it to generate fake videos and build an AI version of TikTok. We've hit peak entertainment, he said. I think that's right. And I think what comes after peak entertainment — if anything does — is the real question sitting underneath all of this. The conversation ended the way the best ones do: not with a conclusion, but with an invitation. Pick something you care about and work on it. The people who built Apollo weren't all rocket scientists. They were cable layers and logistics coordinators who never saw the rocket up close. But they were part of something that exceeded their own individuality, and they knew it, and that was enough. That pride is still available. Whether we want it more than we want another scroll — that's on us. Deep Future: Creating Technology That Matters is out now — find it here. Subscribe to the newsletter at marcociappelli.com. Let's keep thinking. About Marco Ciappelli Marco Ciappelli is Co-Founder & CMO of ...
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    41 mins
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