Representing around 30% of the medical workforce in the NHS, SAS doctors are essential to delivering high-quality care. Yet their role is still evolving in terms of recognition and development. In this episode, Dr Jonathan Darling, who has recently completed tenure as RCPCH Vice President for Education and Professional Development, speaks with Dr Kumar Swamy, neonatology specialist and RCPCH SAS Joint Chair about how the RCPCH SAS committee works to amplify the impact and recognition of SAS doctors through consistent and persuasive messaging.

The two discuss how leadership rarely begins with a title but with curiosity, involvement, and a willingness to contribute. Kumar reflects on his journey to developing leadership skills organically by stepping forward in areas he cared about and learning along the way. Emphasising the benefits of shared leadership, he explains the co-leadership model he follows as RCPCH SAS Joint Chair. This is persistent, collaborative and meaningful leadership in action.

• Read Jonathan's reflections and download the transcript from episode 12 - on RCPCH website
• See related resources about 'Leading the way'- on RCPCH Learning

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About Kumar

Kumar Swamy is a Specialist in Neonatology at Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust. 

He has been involved with the RCPCH SAS committee for over ten years, working first as a regional representative. As a Joint Chair, part of his responsibility is to represent the SAS interests of the College on the Academy of Medical Royal College's SAS meetings. He is also a SAS Tutor for Nottingham University Hospitals and aims to support SAS doctors both locally and nationally.