In the second of two deeply special episodes, Peter E. Jones shares the story of his life and love with Stephen Sondheim – for the first time in over 25 years. In what will be PJ’s official – and only – record of events, he shares the honest and accurate story of how their love transformed both their lives.

30 years on, what can Maria and Mia’s observations tell PJ about the relationship? What was the incredible gesture made by Steve to PJ – which, at the time, PJ didn’t even realise was so special? And reflecting on a lifetime of love and friendship with Steve, what would PJ say to Steve now?

CHAPTERS:

00:00 Maria Friedman: ‘He was in love’

02:08 Steve & PJ - The Story So Far ...

04:16 ‘Passion’ and ‘Peyton Place’

11:15 Maria and Mia

17:56 ‘To PJ, With Love’

20:06 'Just Another Love Story’

31:00 ‘No One Has Ever Loved Me’

34:26 ‘Sunset Boulevard in a Weird Twist’

45:44 PJ & Steve: ‘Songs I Wish I’d Written’

50:01 ‘Bluellow’ from ‘Peyton Place’ by Peter E. Jones

58:13 PJ: ‘You are your choices’

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CREDITS

Hosts and Producers: Martin Milnes and Peter E. Jones

Executive Producer: Jason Caffrey

Produced in partnership with: Creative Kin

Mixing and Mastering: Chris Traves
Directed, Devised and Written by Martin Milnes

CAST AND VOICE ACTORS

Matt Bartlett, Mehran James McCullough.

DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTS
Written by: Martin Milnes
Produced by: Peter E. Jones

MUSIC AND SCORE

Original Score Composed by: Peter E. Jones
Music and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim Trust

Sondheim Instrumental Tracks: Provided by Broadway Studio Orchestra

Music of Stephen Sondheim: Played by Colm Molloy

Theme from Now, Voyager (Steiner): Played by the National Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Charles Gerhardt

FEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES

Excerpts from Passion (Sondheim): Sung by Maria Friedman, Jere Shea and Marin Mazzie

‘Numbers’ from Numbers (Peter E. Jones): Sung by James Martin, Angela Parks, Diann Hinson and Peter E. Jones

‘Bluellow’ from Peyton Place (Peter E. Jones): Sung by Lauren Jones and Shane O’Riordan. Produced by Chris Traves with Musical Direction by Gareth Valentine and piano accompaniment by Sam Young

In the first of two deeply special episodes, Peter E. Jones shares the story of his life and love with Stephen Sondheim – for the first time in over 25 years. In what will be PJ’s official – and only – record of events, he shares the honest and accurate account of how their love transformed both their lives.

How did a letter from a 24-year-old songwriter lead to Stephen Sondheim falling in love – for the first time in his life? What made this a unique meeting of minds and hearts? And what did Mia Farrow observe about Steve and PJ’s love – which only now PJ can understand for himself?

“He saw what I couldn’t see in me, certainly. He saw an individual. He saw aspects of himself, I would say, of lacking self-worth but being talented” – Peter E. Jones

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Mia Farrow: ‘PJ was the love of his life’

02:00 Introducing Steve & PJ

05:10 PJ in Wyoming and Denver: ‘A Little Songwriter’

15:02 A Letter to Stephen Sondheim

20:14 Meeting Steve at 246

29:39 A Weekend In The Country

38:47 A Meeting Of Minds

43:10 Steve’s Inner Circle

54:05 PJ & Mia: ‘The Valley Of Regret’

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CREDITS

Hosts and Producers: Martin Milnes and Peter E. Jones

Executive Producer: Jason Caffrey

Produced in partnership with: Creative Kin

Mixing and Mastering: Chris Traves
Directed, Devised and Written by Martin Milnes

CAST AND VOICE ACTORS

Alistair McGowan, Eddie Andrews, Charlotte Page, Arthur Magee, Victoria Ward, Jonathan Christopher, Mehran James McCullough – and featuring Steven Clar as himself (by special arrangement with Claire Stevens).

DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTS
Written by: Martin Milnes
Produced by: Peter E. Jones

MUSIC AND SCORE

Original Score Composed by: Peter E. Jones
Music and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim Trust

Sondheim Instrumental Tracks: Provided by Broadway Studio Orchestra

Music of Stephen Sondheim: Played by Colm Molloy

FEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES

‘Beautiful Briny’ (Sherman & Sherman): Sung by Mike Sammes

‘Perfect Strangers’ (Rodgers & Charnin): Sung by Jane Powell and Hugh O’Brian.

Excerpts from Passion (Sondheim): Sung by Donna Murphy and Peter E. Jones

Stephen Sondheim longed to be a father. Sadly, this dream was denied him. Yet although Steve never had children of his own, he was a father figure to countless loved ones – and their children. Join Sondheim’s chum Martin Milnes and Steve’s first love Peter E. Jones as they chat to the children – and parents – whose lives were touched by Steve’s love.

What did Steve’s half-brother Walter accidentally discover about his family history? What was the common bond shared by mother and son Mia and Ronan Farrow in their friendships with Steve? And what has Steve’s love meant to Maria and her children?

00:00 Dame Julie Andrews: ‘Oh, Steve! I’m pregnant!’

02:40 Martin & PJ: Steve’s Regret

04:12 Walter E. Sondheim: ‘Steve’s really my half-brother!’

15:02 Jamie Bernstein: ‘But we didn’t lose Steve!’

24:38 Mia Farrow: ‘The Old Woman in the Shoe’

27:38 Ronan Farrow: ‘This Extraordinary Polymath’

35:10 Mia Farrow: ‘I’ll never have anyone remotely like that’

38:38 Maria Friedman: ‘Stephen Song-Guy The Sandwich Man’

48:50 Walter E. Sondheim: ‘We’re going to see Uncle Steve!’

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► SUBSCRIBE to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim in your podcast app and be sure to get every episode the moment it is released.

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CREDITS

Hosts and Producers: Martin Milnes and Peter E. Jones

Executive Producer: Jason Caffrey

Produced in partnership with: Creative Kin

Mixing and Mastering: Chris Traves
Directed, Devised and Written by Martin Milnes

CAST AND VOICE ACTORS

Daniel Cane, Arthur Magee, Tess Hollins, Rebecca Ridout, James Gower-Smith, Mehran James McCullough

DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTS
Written by: Martin Milnes
Produced by: Peter E. Jones

MUSIC AND SCORE

Original Score Composed by: Peter E. Jones
Music and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim Trust

Sondheim Instrumental Tracks: Provided by Broadway Studio Orchestra

Music of Stephen Sondheim and Leonard Bernstein: Played by Colm Molloy

‘How Are Things In Glocca Mora?’ (Lane & Harburg) and ‘Somewhere’ (Bernstein & Sondheim): Played by Steve Ross as Herbert Sondheim

FEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES

‘No One Is Alone’ (Sondheim): Sung by Chip Zien and Kim Crosby

‘Lucky To Be Me’ (Bernstein, Comden & Green): Sung by Lauren Bacall, accompanied by Leonard Bernstein