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Loving You: The Untold Sondheim

Loving You: The Untold Sondheim

By: Martin Milnes & Peter E Jones
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  • And He's Into Making Movies | Sondheim: Director, Actor, Screenwriter, Composer

    And He's Into Making Movies | Sondheim: Director, Actor, Screenwriter, Composer
    Mar 26 2026
    Join Steve’s chum Martin Milnes and first love Peter E. Jones to explore Sondheim’s life both behind – and in front – of the camera. From directing Leonard Bernstein’s family in home movies and acting in his own work on screen, through to writing screenplays, his Oscar-win, and investigating the abandoned Hollywood movie of a cult Sondheim musical. ‘I've got a treatment of Anyone Can Whistle, set in the Swiss Alps, called Anyone Can Yodel. If you know anyone who might be interested in producing, give me a call.' – Sondheim's email to Lin-Manuel Miranda How did Madonna react to Warren Beatty choosing Steve’s songs over hers? What did Steve feel about the Oscar-winning movie versions of his shows? And just what exactly happened that memorable night between Katharine Hepburn, Michael Jackson, Tom Stoppard and Steve? ‘Mr. Sondheim – you are a sombre fellow. Couldn't you put a ray of hope into your show by having a ballerina in white coming down from the flies – and dancing across the stage - in such a dark piece as the one you've written?’ – Katharine Hepburn on AssassinsCHAPTERS:00:00 - Jamie Bernstein: Steve The Director04:03 - James Lapine: Sondheim Acts in ‘Opening Doors’06:53 - Tom Fitzsimmons: Sondheim Acts in June Moon11:05 - Steve & Martin: Movie Wordplay Puzzles18:33 - Katharine Hepburn: The Prickly Next-Door-Neighbour25:44 - Anthony Perkins: Co-writing The Last of Sheila27:18 - Madonna & The Oscar: ‘Sooner Or Later’31:25 - Lin-Manuel Miranda: Movie Versions of Steve’s Shows35:30 - Exploring The Sondheim Movie-That-Never-Was44:37 - Follies: 197450:50 - Steve & Martin: ‘A Beautiful Friendship’Subscribe to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim on Apple and all good podcast apps to get every episode the moment it is released. SUPPORT THE SHOW:► SUBSCRIBE to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim in your podcast app and be sure to get every episode the moment it is released.► RATE & REVIEW Leave a review in your podcast app and tell other Sondheim fans why they should listen.► SHARE Don't keep it to yourself! Share Loving You: The Untold Sondheim with other Sondheim fans you know.► FOLLOW Loving You: The Untold Sondheim on Instagram. CREDITSHosts and Producers: Martin Milnes and Peter E. JonesExecutive Producer: Jason CaffreyProduced in partnership with: Creative Kin Mixing and Mastering: Phoebe Murdoch, Chris Traves Directed, Devised and Written by Martin Milnes CAST AND VOICE ACTORSAlistair McGowan, Charlotte Page, Eddie Andrews, James Gower-Smith, Rebecca Ridout, Daniel Cane and Mehran James McCullough. With Special Appearances by Tom Fitzsimmons, Gary Raymond – and – Elizabeth Seal.DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTSWritten by: Martin MilnesProduced by: Peter E. JonesFollies Screenplay by: Hugh Wheeler (with thanks to the Estate of Hugh Wheeler) MUSIC AND SCOREOriginal Score Composed by: Peter E. Jones Music and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim TrustSondheim and Bernstein Instrumental Tracks: Provided by Broadway Studio OrchestraMusic of Stephen Sondheim: Played by Colm Molloy"Give Another Regis Toomey" and Music by Ravel: Played by Gareth Valentine"Night and Day" and "From This Moment On" (Porter): Played by Steve RossFEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES"Vissi D’arte” (Puccini): Sung by Maria Callas"The Glory of Love” (Hill): Played by Benny Goodman and his Orchestra"Love Me Tonight” (Rodgers & Hart): Sung by Jeanette MacDonald"I Love The Way You Say Goodnight” (Wyle & Pola): Sung by Doris Day and Gene Nelson"Our Language of Love” (Monnot, More, Henecker & Norman): Sung by Elizabeth Seal"Always Mademoiselle” (Previn & Lerner): Attempted by Katharine Hepburn
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    57 mins
  • In The Movies | Sondheim & Golden Age Hollywood

    In The Movies | Sondheim & Golden Age Hollywood
    Mar 19 2026
    In this unprecedented exploration, hosts Martin Milnes and Peter E. Jones discover – in Sondheim’s own words – how Golden Age Hollywood profoundly shaped his personal world view in addition to his work. Featuring never-before-released emails between Steve and Martin, a 1953 letter from Steve in Hollywood, and the premieres of two unknown Sondheim songs in their first official recordings. "Did I tell you about the silent movie stars, all ladies, who I grew up with as they played Mahjong etc in our living room?" – Stephen Sondheim to Martin Milnes Steve and Martin’s mutual encyclopaedic knowledge of old movies sparked ‘a beautiful friendship’ unlike any since Steve’s college days with his movie-mad chums. From playing chess with Humphrey Bogart and imitating Bette Davis, to being star-struck around obscure character actors, Martin and PJ affectionately celebrate Steve’s unexpected love of camp and glittering life among the stars.With special appearances from renowned Script Supervisor Angela Allen (who met Sondheim in 1952 on the set of a notorious camp classic) and Broadway legend Patti LuPone, who recalls how Steve shared with her the original musical version of Sunset Boulevard."Don’t show it to anyone. In fact, once you’ve read it, burn this email." – Stephen Sondheim to Martin Milnes CHAPTERS:00:00 - “And Introducing” Steve, Martin, Spielberg & Hitler 05:34 - Steve’s Love of Gossip and “Life In Movie Terms” 15:58 - Steve’s Home Movie and The Origins of Pot in Company20:26 - “Let’s Go To The Movies”: Influencing Steve’s Work29:27 - Sunset Boulevard: Swanson, Steve & Patti34:14 - “I’ll Never Forgive Myself”: Steve’s Shyness37:01 - Bette Davis: Mayhem at Williams College 42:27 - Margaret Sullavan: “No Sad Songs For Me”47:05 - Maggie at “The Party Of The Stars”: A Sondheim World Premiere53:50 - “Lunch With Hats”: The College Chums56:43 - Torch Song: Steve’s Letter From Hollywood, 1953 Subscribe to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim on Apple and all good podcast apps to get every episode the moment it is released. SUPPORT THE SHOW:► SUBSCRIBE to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim in your podcast app and be sure to get every episode the moment it is released.► RATE & REVIEW Leave a review in your podcast app and tell other Sondheim fans why they should listen.► SHARE Don't keep it to yourself! Share Loving You: The Untold Sondheim with other Sondheim fans you know.► FOLLOW Loving You: The Untold Sondheim on Instagram. CREDITSHosts and Producers: Martin Milnes and Peter E. JonesExecutive Producer: Jason CaffreyProduced in partnership with: Creative Kin Mixing and Mastering: Phoebe Murdoch, Chris Traves Directed, Devised and Written by Martin Milnes CAST AND VOICE ACTORSAlistair McGowan, Daniel Cane, Michael Aspel, Harry James-Taylor, Pauline Milnes, Martin’s Niece Tess, Melissa Redman, Rebecca Ridout, Rosanna Roscoe, Victoria Ward, Arthur Magee, Rosalind Russell, Karsci Wright, Theo Bracey, Sam Trotman, Jonathan Christopher, Samuel Black, Mehran James McCullough – and – legendary 1930s child star of British movie musicals – Hazel Ascot.DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTSWritten by: Martin MilnesProduced by: Peter E. Jones MUSIC AND SCOREOriginal Score Composed by: Peter E. JonesMusic and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim TrustSongs Produced & Mastered by: Chris TravesMusical Direction: Gareth ValentineSondheim Instrumental Tracks: Provided by Broadway Studio OrchestraMusic of Stephen Sondheim: Played by Colm MolloyMain Title from Beyond The Forest: Composed by Max Steiner“Concerto Macabre” from Hangover Square: Composed by Bernard HerrmannMusic from Deception: Composed by Erich Wolfgang KorngoldFEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES"My Funny Valentine” (Rodgers & Hart): Sung by Mary Martin"I’m Still Here” (Sondheim): Sung by Nancy Walker"Let’s Go To The Movies” (Styne & Sondheim), “No Sad Songs For Me” and “The Party Of The Stars” (Sondheim): Sung by Martin Milnes"Those Wonderful People” (Hughes & Stapley): Sung by Gloria Swanson"Turn Me Loose On Broadway" (Duke, Cahn, Nash): Sung by Bette Davis"The Sound of Music” (Rodgers & Hammerstein): Sung by Jean Bayless
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • Talent | Sondheim's Friends: The Broadway Musical Giants

    Talent | Sondheim's Friends: The Broadway Musical Giants
    Mar 12 2026
    Sondheim's list of 'Songs I Wish I’d Written (At Least In Part)' sparks memories and insights from Broadway's finest musical talents.Hosts Martin Milnes and Peter E. Jones sit down with a powerhouse line-up of Broadway giants to explore the private, generous, and highly sentimental side of Stephen Sondheim. Sondheim's esteemed friends and colleagues John Kander, Richard Maltby Jr, David Shire, Jonathan Tunick and Maury Yeston offer an unprecedented and unique view of Sondheim's musicianship, artistry and love of his friends' work.From glittering 1960s parties to intimate evenings drinking wine and listening to records in Sondheim's study, we learn, including through unpublished Sondheim emails, the respect and support this legendary composer-lyricist offered his peers.Hear how a young Jonathan Tunick was hired to orchestrate Company over 10 scotches, the true origins of the song "Being Alive," and how Steve's list of 'Songs I Wish I'd Written (At Least In Part)' served as his ultimate love letter to his peers."Everybody thinks that Steve is actually as complicated as his music is ... He was a bubi! He was the sweetest man in the world." – Maury YestonCHAPTERS:00:00 - Introduction: John Kander on Sondheim's Compassion and Generosity 05:16 - "Songs I Wish I'd Written": Exploring Sondheim’s Famous List 08:29 - Falling in Love Over Music: Peter E Jones and Stephen Sondheim 10:50 - The Prince Parties and Early Broadway Struggles: Maltby & Shire 17:35 - Sondheim's Secret Sentimentality 24:04 - Jonathan Tunick: Orchestrating the Genius of Stephen Sondheim 30:12 - "He Played What He Wrote": The Unique Process of Orchestrating Sondheim 35:29 - Maury Yeston: Sondheim’s Generosity and Modesty 43:42 - Peter E. Jones' Song On The List: "Bluellow"46:31 - John Kander: A 70-year FriendshipSubscribe to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim on Apple and all good podcast apps to get every episode the moment it is released.SUPPORT THE SHOW:► SUBSCRIBE to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim in your podcast app and be sure to get every episode the moment it is released.► RATE & REVIEW Leave a review in your podcast app and tell other Sondheim fans why they should listen.► SHARE Don't keep it to yourself! Share Loving You: The Untold Sondheim with other Sondheim fans you know.► FOLLOW Loving You: The Untold Sondheim on Instagram.CREDITSHosts and Producers: Martin Milnes and Peter E. JonesExecutive Producer: Jason CaffreyProduced in partnership with: Creative Kin Mixing and Mastering: Phoebe Murdoch, Chris TravesDirected, Devised and Written by Martin MilnesCAST AND VOICE ACTORSAlistair McGowan, Eddie Andrews, Rebecca Ridout, Nathanael Hodgkiss, Taaron Jeram, Jude Peters, Melissa Redman, Mitchell Walsh, Jonathan Christopher, Mehran James McCulloughDRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTSWritten by: Martin MilnesProduced by: Peter E. JonesMUSIC AND SCOREOriginal Score Composed by: Peter E. JonesSongs Produced & Mastered by: Chris TravesMusical Direction: Gareth ValentinePiano Accompaniment: Sam YoungSondheim Instrumental Tracks: Provided by Broadway Studio OrchestraMusic of Stephen Sondheim: Played by Colm Molloy"Comedy Tonight": Played by Gareth Valentine"How Does the Wine Taste?" (Vamp): Composed by Harold Karr"Make A Wish" (Overture): Composed by Hugh Martin"A Hero's Love" (from The Sap of Life): Played by David Shire"Matchmaker, Matchmaker": Played by Steve Ross"Marlowe's Theme" (from Farewell, My Lovely) & "Salsatian" (from Saturday Night Fever): Composed by David ShireFEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES"Travel" (by Maltby & Shire): Sung by Chloe Hopcroft, Nic Myers and Kit Pakapom"New Words" (by Maury Yeston): Sung by Lauren Jones"The Golden Willow Tree" (by Aaron Copland): Sung by Bruce Graham"Home" (by Kander and Ebb): Sung by Mildred Natwick and the original Broadway cast of 70 Girls, 70"I'll Never Go There Anymore" (by Moose Charlap and Eddie Lawrence): Screeched by Moose Charlap on the original composers' demo tape"Hard Hearted Hannah" (by Milton Ager, Jack Yellen, Bob Bigelow and Charles Bates): Sung by Belle Baker"To Be Alive" and "How Do You Do I Love You?": Sung by Richard Maltby Jr and played by David ShireExcerpt from "Bluellow" (by Peter E. Jones): Sung by Lauren Jones and Shane O'Riordan
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    57 mins
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