The wedding may be one day, but marriage is a mindset shift that happens every single day after. In this relatable and honest episode, the conversation dives into what it really means to transition from living for yourself to building a life with someone else.

From small habits like how you spend your time to bigger moments like showing up for your partner when it matters most, this episode unpacks the real adjustments couples face early in marriage. It is not about giving up who you are, but about learning how to think in terms of we instead of me.

Through humor and real life stories, including a memorable first argument that highlights expectations and communication gaps, this episode brings to life the growing pains that come with merging two lifestyles into one shared journey.

This is a conversation about awareness, compromise, and learning that love is not just a feeling, it is a series of intentional choices made daily.

Many couples enter marriage thinking love will carry them through everything. This episode highlights that while love is essential, understanding, communication, and adjustment are what truly sustain a healthy relationship.

Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com

Before the vows, before the big day, before everything becomes official there are conversations that matter more than anything else.

In this episode of the Making Love podcast, we dive into what couples should really be thinking about before getting married and why so many miss the signs that could save them from future heartache.

This is not about the fairytale version of love.

It is about the real work that builds a lasting marriage.

From learning how to truly listen instead of just waiting to respond, to recognizing how family dynamics shape relationship patterns, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what actually prepares couples for life together.

We also get into the topics most people avoid

Credit and finances
Communication habits
Sex and expectations
Family history and relationship patterns

Because the truth is, what you do not talk about before marriage will eventually show up after it.

With honesty and humor, we share personal stories from our own relationship including the early days of learning to be fully seen imperfections and all and why transparency is not optional if you want something real.

This episode is a reminder that marriage is not built on perfect moments.

It is built on honesty, growth, and the willingness to show up fully.

Because when love is real, it is not just about saying I do.

It is about doing the work that comes after.

Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com

Welcome back to Making Love the podcast where we keep it real about relationships, marriage, and everything in between.

Today’s conversation is one that so many of you have asked for again and again.

Learning how to fight right.

Because the truth is, the goal in marriage is not to fight. But if you do not know how to disagree, small things turn into big things fast.

In this episode, we open up about something that might surprise you. For a long time, we did not argue at all. Not because everything was perfect, but because we were avoiding conflict altogether.

On the outside, it probably looked peaceful. But underneath, we were quietly building pressure.

We talk honestly about where that came from.

For him, it was growing up in a home where he watched a marriage fall apart up close and personal. That experience shaped a deep desire to avoid anything that even felt like conflict.

For her, it was the opposite in a different way. There was no visible conflict growing up, but there also was not real communication. No deep conversations. No modeling of how to work through issues. So avoiding hard conversations felt normal.

And then there is the layer many people carry but do not always talk about.

Past relationships.

Pain.

Trauma.

Fear of what could happen if you say the wrong thing.

We get real about how past experiences, including abuse, can quietly shape how you show up in your current marriage. How fear can keep you silent. And how silence, over time, can create distance instead of peace.

At some point, everything shifted.

We realized that avoiding conflict was not protecting our marriage. It was hurting it.

Because what you do not deal with does not disappear. It builds.

So we had to learn a new way.

In this episode, we talk about what actually helped us move from avoidance to healthy communication.

Letting go of fear and understanding the commitment we made to each other
Creating a safe space where honesty does not lead to rejection
Giving each other grace especially when past wounds show up in present moments
Learning not to bring up old, already forgiven issues during new conversations
Choosing to love each other well even in the middle of hard moments

We also talk about something that does not get said enough.

You cannot treat people at work better than the person you come home to.

If you are giving patience, grace, and understanding to everyone else but bringing frustration into your home, something has to shift.

Your marriage deserves the best of you.

Not what is left over.

We bring you honest, healing, and deeply relatable for anyone who has ever struggled with communication, avoided hard conversations, or wondered how to handle conflict without damaging the relationship.

Because learning how to fight right is really about learning how to love better.

And that changes everything.

Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com