In this episode, we’re talking honestly about relationships, long marriages and how life changes as the years go by.

After more than two decades of marriage, raising children, navigating careers and facing the ups and downs that life throws at you, what actually keeps a relationship going?

Is there really a secret to a long and happy marriage — or is it simply about weathering life’s storms together?

We also talk about a huge life transition many couples eventually face: the empty nest. After years of being a busy family of four, what happens when the kids grow up and suddenly it’s just the two of you again?

Along the way we reflect on everything from university life and early adulthood to the strange modern obsession with protein powders and fitness trends.

It’s a funny, honest and sometimes brutally real conversation about relationships, growing older, and figuring out what really matters.

If you’ve ever wondered what long-term relationships actually look like behind the scenes — this one’s for you.

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