On this episode we're joined by Nicole Carr.

Nicole is a journalism professor at Morehouse College and author of the new book, The Price of Exclusion, The Pursuit of Healthcare in a Segregated Nation.

She's previously been a TV reporter in North Carolina, and in Atlanta, where she won four Emmys. And she was an investigative reporter for ProPublica.

Nicole has a degree in mass communications from Winston Salem State, a masters from Syracuse, and is currently studying for a doctorate at Clark-Atlanta University.

Nicole talked about her book writing journey and why she wrote it. She explained how she linked past to present with the story of her great grandfather's becoming a doctor and his work as one, in conjunction with an explanation about the shortage of Black doctors in America. She provided tips for those interviewing people "in the fourth quarter of their lives" and explained how a cold e-mail to Kamala Harris' father led to a gold mine of information.

We also talked about an article Nicole wrote for ProPublica about a school administrator from Maryland who took a new job in Georgia and was promptly chased out of town by overzealous anti-Critical Race Theory parents.

If you were a fan of the Longform podcast, I think you'll like the approach we took in this episode.

Link to Nicole's book

https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-price-of-exclusion-nicole-carr

Nicole's ProPublica story

https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-dei-crt-schools-parents

Nicole on the importance of the Black Press

https://theemancipator.org/2024/11/09/topics/movements/the-black-press-democratized-america/

Nicole's salute: Ida B. Wells Society for Investigative Reporting & The Committee to Protect Journalists

Nicole's book recommendations: Caste, The Origin of Our Discontent & The Warmth of Other Suns (Isabel Wilkerson), How The Word Is Passed (Clint Smith)

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