A quiet war is underway over who controls your health data in the age of AI, and the front-runners aren't the usual suspects. Dr. Isaac "Zak" Kohane, Chair of Biomedical Informatics at Harvard Medical School and founding editor of NEJM AI, traces the line from SMART on FHIR (the accidental standard he helped create in 2009) to today's battle for the doctor-facing AI layer, where companies like OpenEvidence are outrunning the EHR incumbents. He also unveils his Human Values Project, which measures the values embedded inside clinical AI models, and warns how easily payers and pharma could tune them. A two-act conversation about freeing data and guarding values.

For its first-ever live episode, recorded before an audience at New York Tech Week, Practical AI in Healthcare sits down with Fred Bennett, founder and CEO of PatientTalker — an ambient-AI app built for the patient rather than the clinician. (Steve Labkoff is a disclosed advisor to the company.) Bennett traces the idea to his father's cardiology visit, where three family members left with three different memories of the same conversation. The discussion covers why patients are the forgotten end-user of clinical AI, how to build a "minimum trustable product," the honest question of who pays for patient-first tools, and why the technology is rarely the hard part.

Patient advocate Hugo Campos spent more than a decade fighting for access to the data from his own implanted defibrillator. When the system wouldn't budge, he stopped trying to reform it and started building around it. In this episode, Hugo shows how he used agentic AI coding tools to create OpenKP, an open-source app that liberates his records from inside Kaiser Permanente, despite calling himself a non-coder. He and the hosts unpack the line between institutional AI and patient-directed AI, the discipline of having two AIs check each other, and why he believes "critical AI health literacy" now matters more than knowing how to code.

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