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Radical Sacred

Radical Sacred

By: Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke
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 Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.

For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore.

Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation.

Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:
  • What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?
  • Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?
  • Where do you experience the Holy?
  • If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?
  • How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?
  • Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?
  • How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?
Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.

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Episodes
  • Moving in the World with the Intention to Love with David Dault

    Moving in the World with the Intention to Love with David Dault
    Mar 25 2026
    Today we are joined by David Dault as we dive into his new book The Accessorized Bible. David is an author, professor at Loyola University, award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, podcaster and radio host. We chat about his book which includes beautiful passages on James Baldwin, loving with intention, bringing our own moral lens to the bible, and more! This is a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation. We are grateful for David and his invitation to look more in depth: at our own souls, at the ways we interpret the bible, and at the ways we connect to others.


    Show Notes:
    • Substack - David Dault is writing things
    • The Accessorized Bible
    • The Francis Effect Podcast
    • Things Not Seen: Conversations About Culture and Faith
    • David at Loyola University
    • Karl Rahner banana essay - Theology of Freedom
    • The Good Place
    • Hannah Arendt - On Violence
    • An Octopus has Three Whole Hearts by: Joy Sullivan

    Key Topics
    • The metaphor of the Bible as an accessory versus a rulebook
    • The importance of moral seriousness and slow reflection
    • The concept of takun olam (repairing the world)
    • The role of love and responsiveness in faith and relationships
    • The impact of technology on empathy and storytelling



    Chapters
    01:00 The Heart of an Octopus: A Poetic Introduction
    02:01 David Dalt: A Multifaceted Journey
    03:00 The Evolution of a Career: From Music to Academia
    05:59 Things Not Seen: Conversations on Culture and Faith
    10:44 Navigating Faith in a Polarized World
    14:45 The Bible: A Tool for Good or Evil?
    20:10 The Accessorized Bible: Purpose and Timing
    26:17 Moral Seriousness: Slowing Down to Reflect
    30:52 Technology and Its Ethical Implications
    32:02 Exploring Technology and Power Dynamics
    34:32 The Role of Narrative in Repairing the World
    37:43 The Impact of Technology on Empathy
    38:56 Transcending Technique in Art and Life
    43:22 The Bible: A Source of Questions and Insights
    47:14 Influences and Ancestry in Thought
    51:49 Catastrophic Love and Institutional Challenges
    59:30 The Intention to Love in Relationships
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Jim Keat on the Intimacy of Online Connections

    Jim Keat on the Intimacy of Online Connections
    Mar 18 2026
    Rev. Jim Keat of The Riverside Church joins us this week to talk about creating intimate spaces and reciprocal relationships online. Jim is a runner, digital creator and pastor who views the internet as a vast opportunity for connection, care, and transformation. This conversation is a lovely reminder of the power of community on site or online.

    Show Notes:
    • Riverside Church
    • jimkeat.com
    • The Convergence Network
    • @revjimruns
    • Bible in a Minute
    • Jim’s Substack
    • Imagination by Assata Shakur
    Key Topics
    • Embodiment in digital spaces
    • Creating intimacy online
    • Navigating online critique and negativity
    • Ethics of technology in faith communities
    • Building reciprocal relationships in digital spaces
    Chapters
    00:00 The Power of Belief and Affirmation
    02:32 Introducing Jim Keat: Digital Ministry Innovator
    04:05 Navigating Digital Spaces in Ministry
    05:42 Redefining Digital vs. Physical Experiences
    10:12 Creating Intimate Online Spaces for Ministry
    12:03 Fostering Connection in Digital Gatherings
    15:12 Mindfulness and Running: A Personal Journey
    18:05 Nature's Lessons for Digital Engagement
    20:07 Noticing the Present: A Mindful Approach
    24:03 Inhabiting Spaces: The Contrast of City and Small Town
    26:28 Navigating Progressive Faith in Small Towns
    30:03 Creating a Liberative Church Experience
    31:33 Handling Online Critiques and Community Engagement
    35:07 The Role of Technology in Building Relationships
    38:33 Experiencing Reciprocity in Digital Spaces
    43:17 Ethics of Technology and Digital Ministry
    49:12 Addressing Global Issues and Personal Heartbreak
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    53 mins
  • Christine Tracy on Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin

    Christine Tracy on Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin
    Mar 11 2026
    We had the loveliest of conversations with writer, journalist, and rhetorician, Christine Tracy on her new book Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin. Her book and our conversation are about Teilhard, but are both also deeply rooted in how he became a guide and a north star for Christine as she goes on a transcendent journey to find her truest self. What can we learn by letting go of fear and shame and learning to just trust life? We hope Teilhard and Christine inspire you to look within, to trust self, and to transcend. All you need is already within you.

    Show Notes:
    • Christine's Website
    • Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin by: Christine Tracy
    • Teilhard Project Scholars
    • The Newsphere by: Christine Tracy
    • Summer by Frank Weston Benson
    • Emergency Family Assistance Association in Boulder
    • Wilding by Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer

    Questions to consider:
    1. How can embracing your inner wildness lead to a more authentic and fulfilling life? Reflect on moments when you felt most connected to your truest self and consider how you can incorporate more of these experiences into your daily life.
    2. In what ways can pain serve as a catalyst for personal growth and spiritual awakening?
    3. How does practicing love as a cosmic energy influence your interactions with others and the world around you?
    Practices to try:
    1. Dedicate time each week to engage with nature or activities that allow you to express your primal energy. This could be through hiking, dancing, or simply spending time withnature.
    2. When experiencing emotional or physical pain, take a moment to journal or meditate on what this pain is teaching you about your true nature. Use this practice to transform suffering into a lesson of resilience and love.
    3. Incorporate intentional acts of love into your daily routine. This could be as simple as smiling at a stranger, expressing gratitude, or sending positive energy to someone in need.



    Chapters
    00:00 Embracing the Wilderness Within
    02:51 The Journey with Teilhard
    06:40 Finding Authenticity and Being Seen
    12:21 Transcendence and Inner Connection
    18:01 The Noosphere and Collective Evolution
    23:38 Pain as a Teacher and Personal Power
    26:54 The Power of Presence and Love
    27:38 Art as a Catalyst for Connection
    30:19 Exploring the Energy of Love
    33:28 Reconnecting with the Self
    36:40 The Role of Ancestors in Our Journey
    39:23 Embracing Challenges and Enemies
    42:35 Envisioning a Better World
    50:32 Nature's Healing Influence
    52:56 The Wisdom of Trees and Water Blessings
    57:12 NEWCHAPTER
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    58 mins
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