What happens when two survivors of childhood sexual abuse sit down to discuss the ultimate boundaries of Christian forgiveness?In this deeply raw and challenging episode, I am joined by a fellow survivor. Today, she and her husband run a front-line ministry where he serves as a pastor specifically for people who were sexual abusers. Together, we share our two different stories of survival, and how we now choose to walk like Christ. This conversation will force you to think deeply about the "other side" of trauma and step into the unknown territory of radical gospel grace.

Our Hard Line on Safety and Justice:We want to be absolutely clear: we are not saying that what abusers did, or what they do, is okay. Abuse is horrific, evil, and has devastating consequences. Victims deserve absolute protection, and criminals belong in the justice system. If an abuser is actively offending, hiding, or posing a threat, please contact law enforcement immediately.

⚠️ Important Safety & Boundary Policy:

Please note that in the ministry environment where they minister, strict boundary protocols are enforced due to discipling individuals with a history of sexual offense. For absolute safety, compliance, and protection, they cannot minister to or be around other women or children during this work.True Repentance vs. The Past:Our focus today is on the supernatural power of the Gospel. For those individuals who have truly repented, confessed, surrendered to God, and permanently turned away from their sin, the Bible promises a complete transformation: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).Join us for an unforgettable conversation about what it truly means to look like Jesus when facing the deepest wounds of our past.In this episode, we discuss:-Our personal stories of surviving childhood sexual abuse.-What it is like for a survivor to be married to a pastor ministering to former abusers.-How to distinguish true biblical repentance from manipulation.-How we personally navigate human justice, safety, and divine mercy.