There was nothing objectively wrong with Clash in Italy.

That's the weird part.

The matches were good. The crowd was hot. A Championship changed hands. Storylines moved forward.

And yet by the time the wrestling weekend was over, the show we couldn't stop thinking about wasn't Clash.

It was AAA Noche de los Grandes.

This week, we break down a wrestling weekend that ended up becoming a conversation about something much bigger than wins and losses.

Why did Clash in Italy feel good... but not memorable?

Why does WWE keep choosing the safe version of the story?

And why did a four-match AAA special television event leave a bigger impression than a WWE Premium Live Event packed with stars?

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On this episode:

Cody Rhodes vs. Gunther and why their WWE Championship match left so much on the table.

Rhea Ripley vs. Jade Cargill and the performance that finally made us rethink Jade's future.

Brock Lesnar vs. Oba Femi and why Oba may have needed this loss more than another dominant victory.

Sol Ruca captures her first main roster championship.

Roman Reigns vs. Jacob Fatu and the growing frustration with WWE's reliance on the safest possible direction.

Our full Clash in Italy review and final thoughts.

AAA Noche de los Grandes results.

El Grande Americano vs. El Grande Americano in a legitimate Match of the Year contender.

Why Ludwig Kaiser's accidental masterpiece may have become the biggest success of his career.

And why Undertaker's approach to booking professional wrestling feels completely different right now.

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Quick shoutout to the family business — Zarc International.

Be Prepared. Protect Yourself. Carry Vexor.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction & Wrestling Weekend Thesis

01:54 Building a Community of Wrestling Nerds

10:39 Cody Rhodes vs. Gunther — Left So Much on the Table

23:10 Rhea Ripley vs. Jade Cargill — I'll Eat the Crow

36:06 Brock Lesnar vs. Oba Femi — Oba Needed This

54:24 Sol Ruca vs. Becky Lynch — Becky Hogan Strikes Again

01:06:52 Roman Reigns vs. Jacob Fatu — WWE Chose the Safe Option

01:11:51 Clash in Italy — Final Thoughts

01:24:49 AAA Noche de los Grandes — Quick Results

01:29:08 El Grande Americano vs. El Grande Americano — Match of the Year

01:45:55 MVP of the Weekend — Undertaker

01:55:46 Good Isn't the Same as Memorable