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Think about the last meeting you were in. Not the agenda. Not what was decided. Think about what happened after you walked out.

Did the room exhale? Did people finally say the thing they had been holding? Did the conversation get more honest — or less?

You will never be in the room after you leave it. And that room is where your leadership actually lives.

In this episode, Lisa draws a line between leaders who fill a room and leaders who open one. She names why the culture rewards the person who commands the space but almost never notices the person who changed it. And she asks a question most leaders never have the courage to sit with: if the real meeting happens after yours — what is that telling you?

Your leadership is not what happens while you are in the room. It is what happens after you leave it.

Soul to Soul drops every Monday.

Soul to Soul with Dr. Lisa Carter-Bawa is a podcast for anyone who is in the middle of becoming — doing the inner work, asking the harder questions, and learning to live from the inside out.

New episodes drop every Monday.

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There's this thing that happens when you're carrying a lot. People ask how you're doing, and you say "I'm good." Not because you're lying — but because the truth would take longer than anyone has time for.

In this episode, Lisa gets honest about what her last two weeks actually looked like: two R01 deadlines, fifty resumes, a staffing transition, a LinkedIn post that reached fifty thousand people — and losing her 43-year-old nephew Colby, suddenly and without warning. She connects her invisible inventory to what the world is carrying right now: the dismantling of the Voting Rights Act, a new Ebola emergency, and an NIH budget crisis that's pushing scientists out of the work they love. And she names the thing nobody talks about — that the weight isn't the problem. The loneliness of the weight is.

Soul to Soul with Lisa Carter-Bawa. Where science meets soul.

Soul to Soul with Dr. Lisa Carter-Bawa is a podcast for anyone who is in the middle of becoming — doing the inner work, asking the harder questions, and learning to live from the inside out.

New episodes drop every Monday.

Follow the journey: 📍 Instagram: @lisacarterbawa 📍 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisacarterbawa/ 📍 Website: www.lisacarterbawa.com

Follow me on Substack: https://soultosoulleadership.substack.com/

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There is a thing nobody tells you about getting what you wanted. The flatness that arrives the morning after. The strange quiet hum of an interior question that the promotion, the credential, the title, the milestone was supposed to answer — and somehow didn't.

Most people, when they feel it, look away. They start chasing the next thing, hoping it will be bigger, brighter, more decisive. It won't be.

This episode is for anyone who has worked toward something for years, arrived, and felt the strange flatness. It is not a sign that you got the wrong thing. It is a sign that you were taught to expect the wrong thing from arrival. There is a gift hidden in the flatness — and a different kind of life waiting on the other side of noticing it.

Soul to Soul with Dr. Lisa Carter-Bawa is a podcast for anyone who is in the middle of becoming — doing the inner work, asking the harder questions, and learning to live from the inside out.

New episodes drop every Monday.

Follow the journey: 📍 Instagram: @lisacarterbawa 📍 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisacarterbawa/ 📍 Website: www.lisacarterbawa.com

Follow me on Substack: https://soultosoulleadership.substack.com/

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