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The 40 / 40 Pastor's Podcast

The 40 / 40 Pastor's Podcast

By: Arthur J. James
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Summary

Most pastors are told to choose: the pulpit or the marketplace. The 40/40 Pastor's Podcast exists for those who refuse.

If you spend half your life leading a congregation and the other half running a business, building a career, or operating in the marketplace you're not divided. You're deployed. But no one prepared you for this. Seminary didn't cover payroll. Business school didn't cover Sunday morning grief. And most pastor podcasts assume you're fully funded and full-time.

This show is for the leader who preaches on Sunday and negotiates on Monday. For the church planter who's also a contractor, a consultant, a developer, or an entrepreneur. For the bi-vocational pastor who's tired of feeling like a second-class minister and ready to see the dual calling for what it actually is, a prophetic gift to the local church and the marketplace both.

Each month, the 40/40 Pastor's Podcast brings you honest conversations, real stories, and practical wisdom on identity, time, money, ministry, and the gritty beauty of a life lived fully in both worlds.

You don't have to choose. You were made for both.

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Episodes
  • Two Worlds, One Calling

    Two Worlds, One Calling
    May 9 2026

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    What do you call a pastor who also runs a business? Bi-vocational sounds clinical. Marketplace minister sounds like a conference theme. Tentmaker is biblical but feels ancient. The truth is, there's no clean label for the leader who carries both a congregation and a career and that's exactly the problem this podcast exists to solve.

    In this debut episode, we lay the foundation for everything Season 1 will explore. What is the 40/40 life, really? Where did it come from biblically? Why is it growing? And why does the church desperately need leaders who refuse to stay in one lane?

    If you've ever felt like you were cheating your church by working, or cheating your work by pastoring this episode is where that guilt starts to unravel.

    Welcome to the 40/40 Pastor's Podcast. You've been waiting for this room.

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