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The Debrief: Stories from Damn Fine Soldiers

The Debrief: Stories from Damn Fine Soldiers

By: Lt. Col. (Ret.) Scott Rutter and Matthew Paul
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"The Debrief: Stories from Damn Fine Soldiers" is a podcast series built around the untold stories behind "Damn Fine Soldiers," an unfiltered account of Task Force 2-7 Infantry's 21-day advance from Kuwait to Baghdad during Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003.


Each episode goes deeper than the book. Authors Lt. Col. (Ret.) Scott Rutter and Matthew Paul sit down with soldiers who lived the mission — pulling back the curtain on the decisions made under fire, the faith that sustained them and the leadership lessons that still apply today.


This is military history told by the people who made it. For veterans, military families, students of leadership and anyone who wants to understand what it really means to serve during a war.

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Episodes
  • The Aftermath
    Jun 26 2026

    Scott Rutter and Matthew Paul are joined by retired Lt. Gen. Dan Bolger—combat veteran, former division commander and author of "Why We Lost"—to tackle the question that has haunted American military strategy ever since Operation Iraqi Freedom: What do you do after you win?

    The conversation opens by discussing April 11, 2003, the day the Saddam Hussein regime fell and Task Force 2-7 Infantry was ordered to transition from combat operations to stability operations. Rutter and Paul put listeners on the ground in those first chaotic weeks—the looting, the power vacuum, hospitals overwhelmed, fires burning on every block and a force trained to destroy an enemy now asked to govern neighborhoods it had just fought through.

    Bolger delivers an unflinching assessment of what broke down at the strategic level. When Ambassador Jerry Bremer and the Coalition Provisional Authority disbanded the Iraqi army, hundreds of thousands of soldiers lost their paychecks overnight. Many of them already knew how to fight. The bushwhacking phase, as Bolger puts it, was one they could win.

    The deeper failure, though, wasn't any single decision. It was a military culture so focused on tactical excellence that it never fully grappled with the harder strategic question—win the fight, then what? When strategy fails, the load transfers down. All the way to the battalion commander, the platoon leader, the sergeant, the private. What kept things from falling apart in those early weeks wasn't strategic clarity. It was the NCOs.

    The episode closes with a warning as relevant today as it was in 2003: The American soldier will get the job done. The obligation for commanders and civilian leaders alike is to be worthy of them: to ask the strategic questions before the first soldier crosses the line of departure and define what victory looks like before committing to winning it.

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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • The Kill Chain
    Jun 22 2026

    We dive deep into one of the most critical concepts in modern warfare: the kill chain. Lt. Col. (Ret.) Scott Rutter and Matthew Paul are joined by former S2 intelligence officer Derrick Smits (Able 2) and ex-fire support officer Jason Happe (Able 30) for a raw, unscripted conversation about how Task Force 2-7 sensed, decided and acted its way through 21 days of combat—from the Kuwait border to downtown Baghdad.

    The group breaks down how each man fit into the kill chain—Derrick painting the intelligence picture, Jason coordinating fires, Matt delivering mortar fires and Scott making targeting decisions in real time. They share firsthand accounts of the friction points that challenged the system: degraded communications, analog battle tracking, outrunning digital capabilities and a battlefield that morphed from open desert warfare to street-by-street urban fighting almost overnight.

    From the first real engagement at Al Samawah—where clearance of fires went from five minutes to about 30 seconds—to the fight at Saddam International Airport and the fight along Highway 8, this episode is a ground-level account of what happens when doctrine meets chaos.

    How would each man approach the kill chain differently today, 23 years later? Their answers are a warning as much as a lesson—trust the training, know your commander's intent and never let technology replace the fundamentals.

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • Steel in the City: Part 2
    Jun 8 2026

    In the second installment of "Steel in the City," Lt. Col. (Ret.) Scott Rutter and Matthew Paul welcome a special guest: Lt. Col. (Ret.) Jimmy Lee, former commander of the only tank company team in Task Force 2-7 Infantry during Operation Iraqi Freedom. A decorated combat veteran, Lee brings a first-hand perspective on what it meant to lead a company team through the streets of Baghdad in March and April 2003.

    Lee puts you in the turret for the march to Baghdad: the training that built his combined-arms team before the fight, the one-page op order he used to invade a country, the night four tanks got stuck outside Objective Hannah while the division pushed north without them and the letter he wrote to a soldier's mother while still in combat.

    Lee warns that today's Army has drifted—units avoid urban terrain at combat training centers and COIN-era instincts bleed into large-scale combat training. His prescription: get infantry on the ground, get combined arms into the city, maintain momentum and accept that war is ugly. He closes with a pointed observation that the best mission command he ever saw wasn't on a screen—it was two generals on a Humvee with a paper map asking commanders face-to-face: "What do you see? What do you need?"

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    54 mins
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