In this episode Caroline and Liz sit down with the man at the centre of the chatter about the safety of Lucy Letby’s convictions - the man who was never called to give evidence in her trial. In this interview Dr Mike Hall questions the justice system, if jury trials are always the best way to try complex cases and his concerns about the tactics of Lucy Letby’s new barrister Mark MacDonald.

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