In this episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast, Dr. Robin Stern continues the limited series Conversations at the Edge, exploring what it takes to stay grounded, curious, and connected when conversations move into charged, uncertain, or deeply divided territory.

Robin's guest is Scott Levy, author of Why School Boards Matter, a four-time elected public school board member in Westchester County, former president of a regional school boards association, and former Executive Director of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence. Together, they shine a light on a part of American democracy most people rarely think about - local school boards - and why these often overlooked institutions may be one of our best hopes for rebuilding civic trust.

Scott explains how school boards create a rare public space where neighbors with real disagreements have to show up, speak openly, and make decisions in the same room, eye to eye, not from behind screens. Robin and Scott discuss the public comment process, why controversial issues can intensify in the age of viral clips, and what helps communities avoid turning disagreement into dehumanization. They also explore "initiative fatigue" in schools, how too many competing mandates can overwhelm educators, and why thoughtful prioritization and better governance matter for teacher retention and student outcomes.

The conversation closes with hope: what Scott sees in students, what in-person civic process still makes possible, and why strengthening local institutions, rather than pulling all power upward, may be essential if we want a healthier, more functional democracy.

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Dr. Robin Stern's Books:

The Gaslight Effect

The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide

Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on The Gaslight Effect Podcast do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.

In this episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast—part of our limited series Conversations at the Edge—Dr. Robin Stern sits down with Mo Edjlali, founder of The Mindful Leader and author of OpenMBSR: Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction—Reimagining the Future of Mindfulness, for an honest conversation about what it takes to stay awake, ethical, and human in high-pressure environments.

Mo shares his personal turning point: a rapid rise as a high-achieving entrepreneur, the leadership persona he adopted to succeed, and the painful crash that forced him to ask, "What is this all for?" From there, he traces how mindfulness, through intensive practice and deep inquiry, changed not only his stress level, but his perception of reality itself, and ultimately reshaped how he thinks about leadership.

Together, Robin and Mo explore why meaningful growth often happens "at the edge," and why real progress sometimes requires the courage to challenge the culture of mindfulness from the inside, through debate, rigor, and a willingness to name uncomfortable truths.

To check out this and other episodes, head over to robinstern.com.

Don't forget to subscribe to The Gaslight Effect Podcast on your favorite podcast platform, and be sure to leave us a review to let us know what you think. Until next time, remember: healing is a journey, and you don't have to walk it alone.

Dr. Robin Stern's Social Media Links:

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Dr. Robin Stern's Books:

The Gaslight Effect

The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide

Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on The Gaslight Effect Podcast do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.

In this episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast, Dr. Robin Stern continues the limited series Conversations at the Edge—a space for staying grounded, curious, and connected when conversations move into charged, uncertain, or deeply divided territory. Inspired by Robin's ongoing dialogue with her dear friend Lynn Redleaf, the series is rooted in dignity and respect, and in the belief that making space for another person's ideas doesn't require agreement - it requires a willingness to understand without erasing, attacking, or diminishing the other.

Robin is joined by Pierce Harris, a young peace builder who is already doing the work many adults avoid. Pierce is a senior at Ransom Everglades School and a rising freshman at Harvard College, with a deep commitment to dialogue, history, and global affairs. From leading student initiatives that bring peers together across political and cultural divides, to engaging with peacebuilding efforts beyond campus - including Seeds of Peace and work connected to SDG 16 (peace, justice, and strong institutions) - Pierce brings a rare combination of intellectual rigor, moral clarity, and relational maturity.

Together, Robin and Pierce explore what helps difficult conversations actually work: psychological safety, unspoken rules of dialogue, curiosity, and the willingness to hold multiple truths at once. Pierce shares how his family dinner table shaped his comfort with disagreement, what Seeds of Peace taught him about emotional intensity and human connection, and a defining moment when a hard disagreement didn't break a friendship, because the relationship mattered more than being right.

Robin and Pierce also talk about moral distress and moral injury, what to do when the world feels out of alignment with your values, and how young people can protect their hearts without turning away from civic responsibility.

Pierce closes with a call for dignity rooted in the simple truth that every human being deserves respect, and an invitation to both generations: for young people to step forward with courage, and for adults to take them seriously, listen deeply, and help create the conditions where their voices can be heard.

To check out this and other episodes, head over to robinstern.com.

Don't forget to subscribe to The Gaslight Effect Podcast on your favorite podcast platform, and be sure to leave us a review to let us know what you think. Until next time, remember: healing is a journey, and you don't have to walk it alone.

Dr. Robin Stern's Social Media Links:

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/drrobinstern/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dr.robinstern/

Twitter (X) - https://twitter.com/RobinSStern

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-stern-220b403a

Dr. Robin Stern's Books:

The Gaslight Effect

The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide

Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on The Gaslight Effect Podcast do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.