Episodes

  • The Cancon Episode: True North, Strong… and Slightly Misleading
    Apr 3 2026
    This week, it's just Jann, Caitlin & Sarah! They discuss their April Fools' prank (sorry not sorry), the recent Juno Awards celebrating Canadian music, the rise of Indigenous artists like William Prince, the evolution of the Junos, and the celebration of Canadian talent like Sarah McLachlan, Joni Mitchell, Nelly Furtado and more. This week on The Scroll , Caitlin highlights the significance of the upcoming Artemis mission and space exploration and the three get back to CANCON conversation touching on the career longevity of Celine Dion as fans register to purchase tickets for her upcoming Paris shows! Chapters: (00:00) April Fools' Day Shenanigans (06:03) The Art of Pranking (12:59) The Juno Awards and Canadian Music (18:49) Space Exploration and the Artemis Mission (18:57) The Evolution of Music Technology (19:32) Celebrating Canadian Music Icons (20:03) The Juno Awards and Industry Dynamics (21:09) The Importance of Artist Engagement (22:26) Memorable Moments from the Junos (24:34) The Subjectivity of Music Awards (25:32) Canada's Impact on Global Music (27:09) The Role of Canadian Artists in the Industry (29:14) Reflections on Career Longevity in Music (30:50) Celine Dion's Comeback and Legacy (36:24) Gala Stories and Musical Connections (39:01) Indigenous Music in Canada (42:00) Patreon Teaser #ASKJANN - want some life advice from Jann? Send in a story with a DM or on our website. Leave us a voicenote! ⁠www.jannardenpod.com/voicemail/⁠⁠ Get access to bonus content and more on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/JannArdenPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/jannardenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/jannardenpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    49 mins
  • Joyful, Anyway with Kate Bowler
    Mar 27 2026
    To start the show, Jann Arden, Caitlin Green, and Sarah Burke share exciting news about their upcoming live podcast taping in Toronto on May 5th as part of the Departure Festival + Conference — a multi-day celebration of music, film, and media, the first week of May in Toronto. 🎙️ Live Podcast Recording 🗓️ May 5, 2026 📍 Jane Mallett Theatre | St. Lawrence Centre for the Arts ON SALE NOW! https://www.ticketmaster.ca/event/10006474E4535C04 They also share personal updates, including Caitlin's unfortunate experience with identity theft and Sarah discovering some fraud during tax season. During The Scroll, Caitlin explains the Taylor Frankie Paul saga and the implications for the Bachelorette franchise and the idea of living on a 15-year cruise ...would you? Special guest Kate Bowler returns for the second half of the show to promote her book Joyful, Anyway! The Canadian (Winnipeg-born), bestselling author, Duke University Professor and the host of Everything Happens podcast discusses the cultural pressures surrounding happiness. Grab Kate's new book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/764086/joyful-anyway-by-kate-bowler/ More About Kate and her work: https://katebowler.com/ #ASKJANN - want some life advice from Jann? Send in a story with a DM or on our website. Leave us a voicenote! ⁠www.jannardenpod.com/voicemail/⁠⁠ Get access to bonus content and more on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/JannArdenPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/jannardenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/jannardenpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Recall: Sarah McLachlan's Better Broken
    Mar 25 2026
    Get tickets to our live show in Toronto at Departure! OnlyJanns get a discount and presale TODAY ONLY (Wednesday March 25th, 2026 at 10am EST). On-sale to general public Friday March 27th at 10am EST. In honour of Juno Awards celebrating Canadian music coast to coast this weekend, we re-visit our conversation with legendary singer-songwriter Sarah McLachlan who's nominated for Better Broken. She talks about her new album and the Lilith Fair documentary while sharing how she balances her life as a musician, mother, and humanitarian. More about Sarah McLachlan: 3X GRAMMY Award winner and global phenomenon Sarah McLachlan recently announced Better Broken, her first album of new material in over a decade (and studio album #10), due out September 19 via Concord Records. Lilith Fair: Building a Mystery Documentary is directed by Ally Pankiw, and produced by Dan Levy’s Not A Real Production Company. ⁠Watch the “Better Broken” music video HERE. ⁠ ⁠https://www.sarahmclachlan.com/⁠ *⁠Photo Credit Kharen Hill*⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    42 mins
  • Dr. Jann vs. AI Jann vs. Power Washing Jann
    Mar 20 2026
    Jann, Caitlin & Sarah reunite without a guest. Jann tells stories of the bear in her yard, Caitlin catches everyone up on her house-hunting challenges, and Sarah talks about her birthday week! Jann also tells her co-hosts about a freak-accident with a knife, and we'll remind you JANN IS NOT A DOCTOR :) Caitlin catches us up on The Oscars and some big changes coming to daytime television. Jann and Sarah chat about some disturbing AI advancements and consider the future of the music industry while celebrating the first week of Spring! Stay tuned for a BIG announcement next week if you want to join us in the audience at our next live show! Get access to bonus content, first dibbs on tickets to our live show and more on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/JannArdenPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ #ASKJANN - want some life advice from Jann? Send in a story with a DM or on our website. Leave us a voicenote! ⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com/voicemail/⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/jannardenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/jannardenpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    51 mins
  • Recall: Thordis Elva
    Mar 18 2026
    You know Thordis Elva as Jann's beloved fiance...but she's also an expert on internet safety and digital rights. For this week's recall, we're flashing back to this important conversation about privacy, consent, location services, and so much more. Thordis takes Jann, Caitlin & Sarah through a deep conversation about how to navigate the digital landscape and the impact of social media on abuse in the space with insights from her work in the field. Resources mentioned for this episode: Remove intimate images 18+: ⁠www.stopncii.org⁠ Remove intimate images for children & minors: ⁠https://takeitdown.ncmec.org/⁠ Nordic Digital Rights and Equality Foundation: ⁠www.nordref.org⁠ More About Thordis Elva: ⁠⁠Thordis Elva⁠⁠ is an Icelandic writer, speaker and activist. Her memoir, South of Forgiveness, which she co-authored with her perpetrator of sexual assault, is out in14 countries with the accompanying TED talk having been viewed over 10 million times. Her books, films and plays have won various ⁠⁠awards⁠⁠ and she was elected Woman of the Year for her contributions to gender-equality. As a public speaker, she has given talks at the UN, the European Council and the EU, to name a few. Her work has been published across four continents and has influenced national policy as well as the global dialogue. Thordis also works as a clinical hypnotherapist and is the founder and current chairperson of the ⁠⁠Nordic Digital Rights and Equality Foundation⁠⁠, working to further human rights and democracy in online spaces. She resides in Reykjavik with her three children, including her miracle twins who sparked a social media movement when they were given a less than one percent chance of survival, and is currently writing their story. South of Forgiveness: A True Story of Rape and Responsibility ⁠⁠https://a.co/d/b4GkdBu⁠⁠ TED Talk: ⁠⁠https://www.ted.com/talks/thordis_elva_and_tom_stranger_our_story_of_rape_and_reconciliation?subtitle=en⁠⁠ #ASKJANN - want some life advice from Jann? Send in a story with a DM or on our website. Leave us a voicenote! ⁠www.jannardenpod.com/voicemail/⁠⁠ Get access to bonus content and more on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/JannArdenPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/jannardenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/jannardenpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • From Prime Suspect to Scene of the Crime: Lynda La Plante’s Criminal Empire
    Mar 13 2026
    Jann checks in from Iceland, Caitlin shares her rollercoaster trying to buy a new home in Toronto, and Sarah announces she has joined a legion ahead of a very special guest! Prolific crime author Lynda La Plante shares her journey from childhood plays to becoming a legendary crime writer and television producer. She shares insights on writing, character development, her challenges in the industry as a woman, and her ongoing passion for storytelling. More About Lynda La Plante: Lynda La Plante was born in Liverpool. She is the author of over forty novels, all of which have been bestsellers. She trained for the stage at RADA and worked with the National theatre and RSC before becoming a television actress. She then turned to writing - and made her breakthrough with the phenomenally successful TV series Widows. Lynda's original script for the much-acclaimed Prime Suspect won awards from BAFTA, Emmys, British Broadcasting and Royal Television Society as well as the 1993 Edgar Allan Poe Award. Lynda is an honorary fellow of the British Film Institute and was awarded the BAFTA Dennis Potter Best Writer's Award in 2000. In 2008, she was awarded a CBE in the Queen's Birthday Honours List for services to Literature, Drama and Charity. Lynda La Plante is the first layperson to be awarded an honorary fellowship to the Forensic Science Society. In 2020 she launched the acclaimed Listening to the Dead podcast with former CSI Cass Sutherland, exploring forensic science and its impact on solving crimes. https://lyndalaplante.com/books/ #ASKJANN - want some life advice from Jann? Send in a story with a DM or on our website. Leave us a voicenote! ⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com/voicemail/⁠⁠⁠ Get access to bonus content and more on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/JannArdenPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/jannardenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/jannardenpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    56 mins
  • Recall: Max Kerman from Arkells
    Mar 11 2026
    Arkells frontman and now author Max Kerman joins the show to speak about his new book ⁠Try Hard: Creative Work in Progress⁠. Jann asks Max about his creative process, the importance of persistence in the arts, and how to navigate the music industry. Max and Jann reflect on true artistic enthusiasm and positivity in creative pursuits, as well as the importance of networking and asking for opportunities. Max also touches on the intricate balance between the creativity and the financial aspects of being an artist, the challenges of navigating social media authentically, and the importance of community engagement. He reflects on the future of music as artists age, the significance of self-reflection, and the impact of their songs on fans. More About Max Kerman and Try Hard: Max Kerman is the frontman of the multiplatinum, award-winning touring band Arkells. Try Hard is his first book. Let’s say you see a familiar musician from a globe-trotting, touring band hanging out at your local coffee shop, reading the newspaper and typing away on his laptop. This doesn’t look like a musician at work. He seems approachable enough, so you ask him what exactly he does all day. With a grin on his face, he admits the job might not be what you think. So you take a seat, and ask him every question you’ve ever had about how it all works: the nuts and bolts of writing a song, preparing for a show, marketing a band, and the day-to-day business of a creative life. With each answer—none of it about talent—you realize this musician is a bit of a…try hard. And the mystery of being a creative person isn’t actually mysterious at all: it’s just exploring ideas with an enthusiastic and determined curiosity. Over and over. Max is that musician in the coffee shop, and this is what reading Try Hard feels like: one-of-a- kind tales from a dynamic frontman, and a companion to your own creative work in progress. With a brick-by-brick attitude, Max explores his own growth in the craft of storytelling and performance, the pleasure to be found in collaboration, and the creative spirit required in sharing your art. *Photo by Nathan Nash* ⁠Buy Try Hard: Creative Work in Progress⁠ ⁠https://www.arkellsmusic.com/⁠ #ASKJANN - want some life advice from Jann? Send in a story with a DM or on our website. Leave us a voicenote! ⁠www.jannardenpod.com/voicemail/⁠⁠ Get access to bonus content and more on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/JannArdenPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/jannardenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/jannardenpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    49 mins
  • Daylight Savings, Midlife Rest & Alcohol with Sleep Expert Alanna McGinn
    Mar 6 2026
    Jann, Caitlin & Sarah welcome back friend of the show, sleep expert Alanna McGinn after a run through the week's headlines and some personal updates! They discuss the critical role of sleep in overall health and well-being alongside nutrition, exercise, and connection. Alanna discusses midlife transitions that impact sleep, highlighting stress, alcohol, and even how to prepare for sleeps swings that come with travel or daylight savings. They also emphasize the significance of consistency in sleep routines, especially for midlife women, and the need to adapt to changing sleep needs over time. The discussion is filled with practical tips and insights and you can find valuable resources from Alanna below for anyone looking to improve their sleep health. More About Alanna and Goodnight Sleep Site: Alanna McGinn is a Certified Sleep Expert, Certified Divorce Specialist®, and founder of Good Night Sleep Site. Since 2007, she’s helped clients improve their sleep, manage stress, and restore balance in their lives. Through her signature programs The Messy Middle Sleep Solution and How to Sleep Your Way Through Divorce, Alanna’s mission is to help women rest, recover, and rebuild with strength and peace. Alanna hosts ‘The Bedtime Edit’ Podcast. You can follow Alanna’s expert advice in national publications like Forbes, Maclean’s, Reader’s Digest, POOSH, and Prevention Magazine, and or catch her regular appearances on Breakfast Television, and The Morning Show. Website: https://alannamcginn.com FREE Email Course: https://goodnightsleepsite.thrivecart.com/stop-3am-wakings-course/ FREE Divorce Starter Kit: https://goodnightsleepsite.thrivecart.com/the-divorce-starter-kit/ Midlife Sleep Support GPT https://alannamcginn.com/menopause-sleep-gpt/ Divorce Sleep Support GPT https://alannamcginn.com/divorce-sleep-gpt/ Messy Middle Sleep Solution: https://alannamcginn.com/sleep-programs/ How to Sleep Through Your Divorce: https://alannamcginn.com/toronto-divorce-coach-alanna-mcginn/ Cynthia Loyst's Husband's Exhibit: https://chinkoktan.com/wp/exhibit-now-open/ #ASKJANN - want some life advice from Jann? Send in a story with a DM or on our website. Leave us a voicenote! ⁠www.jannardenpod.com/voicemail/⁠⁠ Get access to bonus content and more on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/JannArdenPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/jannardenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/jannardenpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    57 mins