Today on the Say it Here podcast, Judi Franco and Corie Adjmi interview former New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey about personal growth, healing from shame, and embracing his second act after coming out as gay and publicly resigning in the midst of personal scandal. McGreevey reflects on the struggles that existed for gay folks when he was growing up and how a lot (but not everything) has changed these days in our country. He describes finding purpose in public service through the New Jersey Reentry Corporation and supports people returning from jail, veterans with PTSD, people in addiction recovery, and domestic violence survivors. McGreevey explains the loss of agency and survival mentality in prison and is an advocate for rethinking incarceration with a focus on rehabilitation. Jim speaks candidly with Judi and Corie about embracing second chances, finding self love, and navigating complex feelings and modern masculinity through compassion, connection and giving back.

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