Recorded on May 6th at Zurich's first-ever Climate Week, this is a different kind of episode. Sebastian Manhart and Eve Tamme spent the day inside a series of Swiss government-hosted events on international CDR pilot transfers and brought the microphones with them.

The Switzerland-Norway and Switzerland-Sweden pilots are quietly doing something that almost no one else is: actually testing the full Article 6 machinery for durable CDR transfers, end to end, with real private sector partners at the table. The question is what that process is revealing: about what works, what doesn't, and how far the rest of the world is from being able to follow.

Eve and Sebastian got to sit down with two people instrumental in making these pilots happen: Veronika Elgart, Deputy Head of International Climate Policy at Switzerland's Federal Office for the Environment, and Ane Gjengedal, Senior Adviser at the Norwegian Ministry of Climate and Environment. The surprises are real and so are the unresolved tensions around: use cases, corresponding adjustments, and the gap between having regulation on paper and having markets that function.

The honest answer from everyone in the room: this is harder than it looks, it's taking longer than expected, and starting sooner is the only advice that holds across every jurisdiction.

Show notes:

• Eve Tamme: LinkedIn and Website
• Sebastian Manhart: LinkedIn and Website
• Ane Gjengedal, Norwegian Ministry of Climate and Environment: LinkedIn
• Veronika Elgart, Federal Office for the Environment, Switzerland: LinkedIn
• Agreement between Norway and Switzerland on International CCS and NET
• CDR Policy Scoop — The world's first durable CDR transaction under the Paris Agreement
• Swiss legal framework for CCS/CDR

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