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Andy and Patrick discuss a a few legendary bands that didn't quite fit in. Were they innovators or just too weird?

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Who owns the Pit? Was crowd killing responsible for the extinction of dinosaurs? Is banana man the face of a hardcore revolution or are some people obsessed with speaking to the manager?

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It's dark in the shadow of a masterpiece. Andy and Patrick discuss sophomore releases that couldn't quite fill the shoes of the first born sibling.

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Andy challenges the concept of good taste while Patrick contemplates his life choices. 20 albums that we consider to be perfect.

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Andy & Patrick talk about their first shows, authenticity in music, Nu-metal, and come to a consensus that Limp Bizkit still sucks. Art over gimmick. Inconveniences are not on our agenda. Do we need an attorney?

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May is mental health awareness month. Take care of each other. RIP Bo Leuders.

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Listener Kyle plays a reverse Uno card, and Andy and Patrick review each others favorites of 2025.

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Nothing beats a matinee show on a work night. Terror talk. New music. Old heads. Is hardcore boot camp a thing?