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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

By: Unholy Media
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Yonit Levi of Israel's Channel 12 News and Jonathan Freedland of The Guardian are two of the most prominent journalists in the world today. They are also Jews. Each week, join what MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calls "two great, smart smart smart hosts" as they dissect and debate current events shaping Israel, Jewish life - and the wider world. Their blend of nuanced discussion and sparkling conversation, featuring a dazzling range of guests, is why New Yorker editor David Remnick calls himself a “proud, avid listener," why Ira Glass says he "completely enjoys this show" and why Malcolm Gladwell calls it an "incredibly fun podcast". For a weekly fix of globally informed talk – including nominations for the greatest act of chutzpah and outstanding mensch of the previous seven days – there’s only one destination. Make every Friday morning Unholy. Contact us via: unholy@unholy-media.comUnholy Media Judaism Politics & Government Social Sciences Spirituality
Episodes
  • Middle East Past and Present: A deep dive into history with Tom Holland
    Apr 1 2026

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    In this special Pesach episode, Yonit and Jonathan discuss seder traditions and those who had to change due to the war. They are joined by Tom Holland — historian and co-host of The Rest Is History and author of landmark books on Rome, Persia, and the roots of Western civilization — to explain why the Romans were wrong about the Jews, why the West fundamentally misunderstands Iran, and why secularism is itself a religious inheritance. From Cyrus the Great to the Iranian Revolution to Donald Trump, this is the episode that puts the present moment in full historical context.


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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Talking peace, making war - with Jake Sullivan
    Mar 26 2026

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    The fourth week of the war with Iran finds both sides insisting—loudly and contradictorily—that peace talks are either underway or nowhere in sight. In the meantime, Iranian missiles continue to hit civilian neighbourhoods across Israel, while rolling news blurs day into night, tracking both the war itself and the political manoeuvres that show little sign of slowing down. And in London, another antisemitic attack raises uncomfortable questions about double standards when it comes to hatred directed at Israel.

    This week, Yonit and Jonathan sit down with Jake Sullivan, who puts it bluntly: this war should not have started. Sullivan lays out three reasons why the decision was flawed, argues that Donald Trump’s “appetite grew with the eating” from the 12-day war to the current escalation, and offers an alternative path—a renewed nuclear deal backed by long-term deterrence. He also raises a troubling possibility: could this conflict increase the likelihood of Chinese action against Taiwan?

    Plus: a rare look behind the scenes of Israel’s most-watched news broadcast, as Yonit reflects on what it means to sit in the anchor’s chair for hours on end—and the personal toll it takes.

    00:00 Day 27 — Cluster bomb near Yonit's house

    03:00 Life under sirens: sheltering in Tel Aviv

    19:48 The Rubio remark: did Israel drag America into war?

    23:28 Yonit on anchoring Israel's news during a war she's living

    31:23 Jonathan: global antisemitic attacks since the war began

    42:06 Jake Sullivan: deal or escalation?

    1:15:16 Chutzpah & Mensch Awards


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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • War with Iran Update: Trump Hits the Pause Button
    Mar 23 2026

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    This morning, Donald Trump posted something that might — or might not — mean the US-Israeli war on Iran is coming to an end.

    A five-day pause on strikes. Secret talks via Pakistan and Turkey. Kushner and Witkoff on the American side. A shadowy Iranian speaker being cast as the pragmatist the US has been searching for. This is a special emergency episode of Unholy, recorded on 23 March 2026, as events were still unfolding.

    Jonathan and Yonit break down the two scenarios — deal or larger war — and why Trump's exit ramp looks nothing like Netanyahu's. They also turn to the daily wave of antisemitic attacks across Europe and North America since this war began, including last night's arson on four Hatzalah ambulances in Golders Green, London.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Update Episode

    01:02 Trump's Social Media Post and Its Implications

    03:40 Negotiations and Mediating Efforts

    08:29 The Role of Iran and Potential Outcomes

    13:30 Israel's Position and Concerns

    16:26 Rising Anti-Semitism and Community Safety


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    21 mins
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