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Unstable Vitals

Unstable Vitals

By: Dr. Adam Brown and Dr. Lara Zibners
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Welcome to Unstable Vitals, where healthcare experts Dr. Adam Brown and Dr. Lara Zibners navigate the ever-evolving healthcare landscape. Adam, an emergency physician, professor, and founder of ABIG Health, brings a wealth of leadership experience and expertise in healthcare strategy and DEI. Lara, a nationally recognized educator and co-founder of Calla Lily Clinical Care, combines clinical insights with business expertise to address the industry's most pressing challenges.

In each episode, Adam and Lara break down complex topics, offering practical insights and clarity in the often unstable world of healthcare. From policy shifts to healthcare economics, they provide the knowledge you need to navigate today's healthcare system.

Tune in for fresh perspectives, expert analysis, and a dose of reality in every episode!

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Episodes
  • Season 2: We're Back. And Healthcare Is Still a Mess
    Mar 31 2026

    Dr. Adam Brown and Dr. Lara Zibners are back for Season 2 of Unstable Vitals, and they're wasting no time. After catching up on life, including Laura's Arctic Circle dog sledding adventure, Adam's new London life, Calla Lily's first Big Pharma partnership, and a spirited rant about Yorkshire pudding, the duo lays out their ambitious plan for the season ahead.

    This episode introduces the "Five P's" framework that will guide Season 2: Politicians/Policymakers, People (patients), Providers, Payers, and Producers. They argue that fixing America's broken healthcare system requires engaging all five groups, and they plan to do exactly that through conversations with health tech founders, clinical innovators, device executives, regulators, and investors.

    From the cost of estrogen gel in Europe vs. the U.S. to why walking to the grocery store might be better healthcare policy than anything coming out of Washington, this season promises to be equal parts hilarious and eye-opening.

    Topics covered:

    • The "Five P's" of healthcare: the season's guiding framework
    • Public transportation, walkability, and downstream population health
    • Lifestyle medicine and transatlantic perspectives on healthcare costs
    • A preview of Season 2 guests and episodes
    • What Adam and Lara have been up to since last season

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    32 mins
  • Season 1 Finale: Unstable Vitals 2025 Year in Review
    Nov 25 2025

    In this special year-end episode of Unstable Vitals, Dr. Lara Zibners and Dr. Adam Brown reunite for their funniest, most unfiltered conversation yet. From GLP-1 mania to AI hype, from the workforce crisis to the seismic impacts of the 2025 election, Lara and Adam break down the five biggest healthcare stories of the year, with the honesty and occasional oversharing you’ve come to expect.

    Along the way, they revisit their favorite moments from Season 1, reflect on personal wins, and look ahead to what excites and terrifies them most about 2026.

    They also talk negotiations, vaccine misinformation, reproductive rights, and why you should always travel with spare underwear.

    Lara and Adam close out 2025 exactly the way they started it: unstable, opinionated, and determined to make healthcare a little less chaotic, one candid conversation at a time.

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    48 mins
  • Policy, Patients, and Public Service: A Conversation with Mac Deford
    Nov 4 2025

    In this episode of Unstable Vitals, we sit down with Mac Deford, former local government attorney, community advocate, and congressional candidate from South Carolina. From his time in the Coast Guard to his work in behavioral health and affordable housing, Mac has seen firsthand how policy decisions ripple through people’s lives.

    We talk about what inspired him to run for Congress, the realities of healthcare and housing access in South Carolina, and why public service still matters, even when the system feels a little… unstable.

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    49 mins
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