Why Cities Rise or Fall Based on Their Downtown with Steve Smith, Co-Founder at Lawrence Group
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In this episode, I sit down with Steve Smith, co-founder of Lawrence Group and founder of New + Found. Steve started Lawrence Group in 1983 in the attic of his home with just a few hundred dollars and a vision of building what he once called the “super firm” — a company that designs, builds, develops, and owns real estate. Over four decades, that vision has grown into a vertically integrated organization operating across architecture, development, construction, and hospitality.
We talk about the mindset behind transformative real estate, including how Steve nearly went bankrupt on his first development, why he believes developers should lead change instead of chasing trends, and how the idea for City Foundry STL was born during a visit to Krog Street Market. We also break down the financing behind one of the most complex real estate deals in the country, how historic tax credits helped unlock massive redevelopment, and why investing in downtown St. Louis remains a mission larger than profit.
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Connect with our guest
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-smith-faia
Lawrence Group: https://thelawrencegroup.com
New + Found: https://newandfound.com
Timestamps for Key Segments
00:00 The moment City Foundry was conceived
02:15 Introducing Steve Smith and Lawrence Group
04:19 Growing up in an entrepreneurial household
05:07 Deciding to become an architect at age 10
06:07 Starting Lawrence Group with $7,500
09:01 The failed development that nearly ended everything
13:00 Rebuilding the architecture firm and delaying development
16:06 The motorcycle museum that sparked new development
21:00 Learning historic tax credits and adaptive reuse
24:34 Creating markets instead of following comps
27:54 Studying other cities to inspire developments
29:27 The origin story of City Foundry STL
35:04 Environmental cleanup and the brownfield strategy
44:05 Financing one of the most complex deals in the country
48:54 Measuring success beyond financial return
52:16 Why Steve keeps investing in downtown St. Louis
55:02 Staying calm during crises and downturns
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