Today, Gabby Sykora is joined by Dr Kelsey Skinner, Executive Director of the African Pangolin Working Group, for a powerful conversation about conservation, perseverance, and one of the world's most threatened mammals.

Together, they explore the work being done to protect pangolins from illegal wildlife trade, the challenges of rescue and rehabilitation, and the growing efforts to secure a future for these remarkable animals.

Dr Skinner shares insights into the African Pangolin Working Group, the realities of working on the frontlines of conservation, and the inspiring story of Kulu, a young pangolin whose journey from trafficking victim to life in the wild captured hearts around the world.

Beyond the pangolins themselves, this conversation is a reminder that conservation is made up of many moving parts and that meaningful impact often begins with the smallest actions.

Whether you're passionate about wildlife, conservation, or simply trying to find your place in making a difference, this episode offers an inspiring message of hope: just because you can't always see your impact, doesn't mean it isn't there

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Intro and outro music by Tony ZA https://soundcloud.com/tonyofficialza

Links from show:

Insta: https://www.instagram.com/africanpangolinconservation

Website: https://africanpangolin.org/