why should anyone care about racial justice? in this episode matré reflects on growing up near a racial divide and the emotional truth that something in our society simply does not feel right. we explore the idea that injustice harms everyone and why that realization can become a call toward healing and liberation.

in this episode, erich continues his conversation with hip hop artist and cultural worker matré, exploring a central tension many white and white passing people encounter: how to relate ethically, honestly, and responsibly to being white and playing black music.

matré reflects on his lifelong relationship with hip hop, the questions that arose as he navigated identity and belonging, and how conversations with trusted people, including his brother, helped clarify the real impact of race and access.

this episode is not about arriving at a single answer, but about staying in relationship with the question. it’s an invitation into vulnerability, humility, and ongoing learning, grounded in love for the music and commitment to liberation.

to hear more from matré, including reflections on music, healing, and courageous conversation, check out his podcast love bravely: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/the-love-bravely-podcast/id1783210134

in this episode, erich is joined by hip hop artist and cultural worker matre for a candid conversation about why conversations around race can feel so charged, vulnerable, and difficult, even among people committed to justice and growth.

together, they explore fear, in group dynamics, overlapping identities, and the tension between saying the “right” thing and speaking from love. the conversation touches on race as a collective wound, the vulnerability of being witnessed, and what becomes possible when we choose growth over performance.

this episode is the first in a short series with matre, and opens space for honest reflection at the growing edge of race, music, spirituality, and liberation.

to hear more from matre, including reflections on music, vulnerability, and healing, check out his podcast love bravely: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/the-love-bravely-podcast/id1783210134