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Holy Uncertain

Holy Uncertain

By: Lauren Ranzino and Chris McLeod
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Have you ever sat through a church service and thought, “Wait—do I actually believe this?”

Holy Uncertain is a podcast hosted by Lauren Ranzino—a theology grad, longtime TV producer, and curious Christian whose parents met in a cult—and Chris McLeod—a homeschooled pastor’s kid, and former worship pastor turned podcast producer, who doesn’t know what to call himself these days, this show explores the big, messy questions of faith, life, and meaning with some of today’s most insightful thinkers.

Raised in a church culture where doubt felt like a dirty word, Lauren and Chris know how hard it is to question openly. So on this podcast, they do it for you—honestly seeking clarity without pretending to have it all figured out.

2026 Lauren Ranzino and Chris McLeod
Christianity Spirituality
Episodes
  • Can Doubt Help Us Grow? | Meredith Miller
    Jun 19 2026

    What if doubt isn’t a sign that your faith is falling apart?

    After a short break, Holy Uncertain is back for Season Two with a conversation about doubt, faith, and what happens when the questions we were taught to fear become part of how we grow.

    In this episode, hosts Chris McLeod and Lauren Ranzino are joined by pastor, writer, and author Meredith Miller to explore how many of us inherited faith systems where certainty was treated as strength and doubt was treated as danger. Meredith, author of Woven: Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn’t Have to Heal From, helps us rethink what it means to hold questions without shame—and what it might look like to build a faith that doesn’t collapse when life gets complicated.

    Together, they talk about the difference between a faith built like a tower and a faith woven like a web, why questioning can be a normal and necessary part of growth, and how adults can begin to heal from the ways they were taught to relate to God, the Bible, and themselves.

    If you’ve ever felt afraid that your doubts meant you were losing your faith, this conversation offers a more generous way to imagine what might be happening instead.

    Continue learning from Meredith Miller:
    www.meredithannemiller.com
    Instagram: @meredithannemiller
    Substack

    Read Meredith’s Books:
    Woven: Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn’t Have to Heal From
    Wonder: 52 Conversations to Help Kids Fall in Love with Scripture

    Reweaving Devotional (for adults)
    Use Code: podcast for 50% off

    Have a question or topic you want us to explore?
    Email us: questions@holyuncertain.com

    Holy Uncertain is a Blue Elevator production.

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • What We Learned from Season One (And What’s Next)
    Apr 24 2026

    After twelve episodes exploring faith, doubt, and everything in between, we’re taking a moment to reflect.

    What has changed in us?
    What questions are we still holding?
    And what’s next?

    In this Season One wrap-up, hosts Lauren Ranzino and Chris McLeod revisit the voices and ideas that shaped this first chapter—from rethinking how we read the Bible to expanding our understanding of the gospel, from stories of harm and healing to the hope that people can change. They reflect on what it means to listen with humility, to stay curious, and to let uncertainty open us up rather than shut us down.

    Whether you’ve been with us from the beginning or are just finding the show, this episode is an invitation: to keep asking honest questions, to make space for new perspectives, and to trust that you’re not alone in the process. Plus, we share what’s ahead for the next season and the topics we’re excited to explore.

    Spread the word about the podcast, catch up on episodes you’ve missed, and we’ll see you in about a month.

    Have a question or topic you want us to explore in future episodes?
    Email us: questions@holyuncertain.com

    Holy Uncertain is a Blue Elevator production.

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    30 mins
  • Why Are Christians Divided About Justice? | Joash Thomas
    Apr 17 2026

    Justice is central to the teachings of the Bible—so why has it become so contested within Christianity?

    In this episode of Holy Uncertain, hosts Lauren Ranzino and Chris McLeod are joined by priest, theologian, and author Fr. Joash Thomas to discuss how history, culture, and power have shaped the Western church’s understanding of justice, and what might be lost when care for the vulnerable becomes secondary to ideology or certainty.

    Drawing from his own story—growing up in India as part of an ancient Christian tradition and later working within American politics—Joash offers a perspective that challenges the ways many of us have come to understand justice, faith, and what it means to follow Jesus.

    This conversation invites a broader, more global view of Christianity—one that learns from traditions outside the Western church and re-centers the life and teachings of Jesus as a call to love, humility, and care for others.

    If you’ve ever wondered why justice has become so complicated within the church—or felt disillusioned by the divide—this episode offers a thoughtful place to wrestle and reflect.

    Continue to learn from Joash Thomas:
    www.joashpthomas.com
    Instagram: @joashpthomas
    Substack: Masala Chai Theology with Fr. Joash P. Thomas
    Read Joash’s Book:
    The Justice of Jesus

    Have a question or topic you want us to explore?
    Email us: questions@holyuncertain.com
    Holy Uncertain is a Blue Elevator production.

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    59 mins
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