In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Dave Gli, co-founder of Easy DC 3PL, a Kentucky-based logistics company providing warehousing, fulfillment, and transportation services to manufacturers and e-commerce businesses. Dave also hosts the Beyond Fulfillment Podcast, where he explores the entrepreneurial journey and the mindset behind building meaningful success.

Dave shares his path from a long and successful career in sales to entrepreneurship, challenging the traditional belief that college is the only route to success. After choosing to leave college and pursue sales, he carved out his own path—one rooted in self-development, confidence, and real-world experience rather than conventional expectations.

Throughout the conversation, Dave opens up about the realities of building a business—from navigating uncertainty and fear to staying grounded through wellness and intentional living. He emphasizes that success isn’t just about financial achievement, but about enjoying what you do, growing as a person, and showing up fully in all areas of life.

The discussion also highlights Dave’s approach to leadership and growth—centered on transparency, respect, and collaboration rather than authority. He shares how being open with his team and valuing their input has helped build trust and strengthen the company culture.

A key theme in this episode is the power of authenticity over transaction. Dave explains how focusing on providing real value—rather than chasing leads—has naturally grown his business, especially through his podcast and content. His mindset challenges the idea that everything must be directly monetized, showing instead that genuine impact creates long-term opportunity.

We explore:

- Why college isn’t the only path to success—and how to find your own

- The role of personal development in shaping career growth

- How to navigate fear, doubt, and uncertainty as an entrepreneur

- Why success is more than income—it’s fulfillment and alignment

- The importance of wellness in sustaining high performance

- A leadership style built on transparency, respect, and collaboration

- Why not everything needs to be transactional to drive business growth

Dave’s perspective is a refreshing reminder that success doesn’t follow a fixed formula. It’s built through action, resilience, and a willingness to challenge conventional paths. If you’ve ever questioned the “standard” way of building a career or business, this episode offers a grounded, practical, and empowering alternative.

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In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Ben Wong, a seasoned product and strategy executive, fractional Chief Product Officer, and founder of Blue Harmony Advisory—a boutique firm helping companies grow with purpose, clarity, and measurable impact.

Ben shares insights from nearly two decades of experience guiding growth-stage technology companies, particularly in EdTech and SaaS, through critical inflection points. His journey spans product leadership, strategy, and advisory roles, offering him a unique vantage point on how businesses scale—and where conventional wisdom often falls short.

Throughout the conversation, Ben challenges the idea that success comes from rigid “playbooks” or best practices. Instead, he emphasizes the importance of understanding context, human dynamics, and the deeper “why” behind what works. He also explores how culture must evolve as companies grow, and why leaders need to focus less on preserving rituals and more on sustaining purpose.

The discussion dives into the realities of leadership—highlighting the importance of listening, building alignment over agreement, and fostering trust rather than authority. Ben also shares his perspective on navigating imposter syndrome, the shifting landscape of work in the age of AI, and why developing self-awareness and intentionality early in life is critical for long-term success.

A key theme throughout the episode is the power of human connection in an increasingly automated world. Ben makes a compelling case that while AI is transforming how work gets done, the ability to understand people, facilitate collaboration, and lead with empathy will only become more valuable.

We explore:

- How company culture must evolve during periods of growth

- The importance of listening and facilitation as leadership skills

- Why leadership teams must model the behavior they expect

- The shift from authority to trust in effective leadership

- How AI is changing work—and what remains uniquely human

- The importance of intentionality in career and life decisions

- Why giving yourself permission to be “selfish” can prevent burnout

- How to navigate imposter syndrome and build self-awareness

Ben’s perspective is a powerful reminder that leadership isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about asking better questions, understanding people, and adapting with intention.

If you’ve ever relied on a “playbook” that didn’t quite fit, or questioned your path in a rapidly changing world, this episode offers a more thoughtful, human-centered approach to growth and leadership.

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In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, i sits down with Clint Rush, a decorated combat veteran and business executive currently serving as president and Managing Partner of Cabinetry and Millwork Concepts.

Clint shares his unconventional journey—from studying at the University of Wisconsin to enlisting in the U.S. Army following 9/11, serving nearly a decade with overseas assignments, and eventually transitioning into the private sector. His career spans operations, finance, and executive leadership, including his role as President and CEO of NorthPoint Logistics before stepping into his current leadership position. His story is one of adaptability, resilience, and redefining leadership through real-world experience.

Throughout the conversation, Clint challenges traditional ideas of leadership, emphasizing honesty, trust, and action over perfection. Drawing from both military and business environments, he offers a refreshing perspective on what it truly means to lead effectively, build strong teams, and navigate uncertainty.

We explore:

- Why shielding teams from bad news actually weakens leadership

- The importance of radical honesty and transparency in building trust

- How military leadership translates (and doesn’t translate) into business

- The myth of having everything “figured out” as a leader

- Why action beats overplanning—and how to avoid analysis paralysis

- The balance between excellence and perfection in business execution

- Building strong teams through trust, accountability, and support

- How to manage imposter syndrome in high-pressure environments

- The role of pacing and decision-making in leadership success

- Why asking for help is a critical (and often overlooked) leadership skill

Clint’s perspective is a powerful reminder that great leadership isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about being honest, taking action, trusting your team, and continuously learning along the way. If you’ve ever felt the pressure to be perfect or to have everything under control, this episode will challenge that thinking and give you a more practical, human approach to leading and succeeding.

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