Brandi Dugal is the Founder and CEO of The Fidget Game, a company that creates curriculum-aligned learning games to make reading and literacy practice effective and fun. The company's resources are used in more than 50,000 schools. A former teacher with classroom experience in multiple countries, Brandi developed The Fidget Game after working with students who were struggling to read. Through the Fidget Forward program, she makes educational tools more accessible to classrooms and families in need.

Scaling an e-commerce brand often requires a counterintuitive move: letting go of the metrics you once used to measure growth. Yet when growth stalls, how do you know whether to pull back or push harder?

Brandi Dugal's answer is to zoom out, measure the whole business, and keep testing until the system reveals what works. As an educator-turned-e-commerce founder, she recommends looking beyond platform-level ROAS and using marketing efficiency ratios (MERs) to assess overall marketing efficiency. Brandi also suggests separating campaigns by product, tagging ad angles carefully, testing high volumes of creative, and staying close to customers through real conversations, feedback loops, and founder-led storytelling. Sustainable growth comes from pairing disciplined measurement with authentic, customer-informed creative.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris chats with Brandi Dugal, Founder and CEO of The Fidget Game, about scaling through creative testing and whole-business measurement. Brandi shares how MER changed her Meta strategy, why authentic founder-led ads outperform polished UGC, and how gamified classroom insights shaped her product development.

Rita Ainsworth is a Human Potential Coach at Rita Ainsworth Coaching, where she helps high-performing professionals and teams reduce stress and improve resilience through neuroscience-based, body-centered coaching. As a trauma-informed coach, she specializes in guiding clients out of chronic stress and into greater clarity, energy, and balanced performance. After spending a decade in marketing and media-buying, Rita spent years studying human performance, neuroscience, and somatic practices to understand sustainable success.

You can have all the experience, data, and strategy in the world and still make the wrong call in a critical moment. Under pressure, even top performers freeze, overreact, or spiral into unproductive action. So what's really driving those decisions when everything is on the line?

According to Rita Ainsworth, a human potential coach specializing in nervous system regulation and performance, it's not your intelligence or skillset — it's your physiological state. When stress takes over, the brain defaults to survival mode, limiting creativity and decision-making. Rita recommends starting with body-based resets like slowing your breath, scanning your environment for safety, or taking short movement breaks to discharge stress. By building awareness of your patterns and practicing regulation techniques consistently, you can shift from reactive to intentional thinking — even in high-stakes situations.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris sits down with Rita Ainsworth, Human Potential Coach at Rita Ainsworth Coaching, to discuss how stress impacts decision-making and performance. Rita explains how nervous system states affect outcomes, why high performers fall into burnout cycles, and practical ways to regulate stress and think clearly under pressure.

Jay Steinfeld is the Founder and former CEO of Blinds.com, the world's largest online retailer of window coverings, which was acquired by The Home Depot in 2014. Under his leadership, Blinds.com grew from a bootstrapped startup in his home to a billion-dollar enterprise, earning a reputation for innovation in e-commerce and technology-driven growth. Jay is also a Wall Street Journal best-selling author of Lead from the Core: The 4 Principles for Profit and Prosperity and the Entrepreneur in Residence at Rice University's Graduate School of Business, where he shares business insights.

Building a company is challenging, but building one that thrives without losing its soul is even harder. Leaders may talk about culture, growth, and decision-making, yet few manage to scale while keeping people engaged and energized. How can you create a business that grows sustainably, empowers employees, and thrives even after major transitions?

According to entrepreneur and leadership expert Jay Steinfeld, the answer lies in focusing on people and constant improvement. He emphasizes creating an environment where teams evolve continuously, experiment without fear of failure, and feel empowered to express ideas openly. Leaders should hire people who embrace change, reward contribution without artificial limits, and encourage constant reflection on daily improvements. By making thoughtful decisions despite incomplete information and designing systems that prioritize learning and growth, organizations can build enduring cultures.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris chats with Jay Steinfeld, Founder and former CEO of Blinds.com, about building a culture-driven company that scales effectively. Jay explains how personal challenges shaped his entrepreneurial mindset, the Four E's framework for company culture, and the partnership strategy that helped position his company for acquisition.

Jennifer Zick is the Founder and CEO of Authentic, a fractional CMO and marketing firm that helps businesses create scalable growth systems. With more than 25 years of experience in B2B marketing across startups, private equity–backed companies, and global organizations, she is a recognized leader in the fractional CMO space. Jennifer is also the Founder of LIFT Integrator Community™, an executive peer group for second-in-command leaders.

Marketing often starts as a flurry of activity — blog posts, ads, social media, campaigns. Yet many companies still struggle to see consistent growth from those efforts. Leaders invest more money and hire talented people, but results remain unpredictable and disconnected from revenue. Why does marketing feel chaotic in growing companies, and how can businesses transform it into a reliable growth engine?

According to marketing strategist Jennifer Zick, many organizations focus on tactical marketing through activities like content, campaigns, and lead generation without strategic alignment. Instead, leaders should elevate marketing to a strategic function that shapes decisions about positioning, pricing, market entry, and the customer experience. Jennifer recommends clarifying your ideal audience, defining why your brand matters to them, and building trust through consistent messaging across the entire customer journey. When marketing leaders collaborate closely with sales, operations, and finance, companies can align their strategy with measurable outcomes such as customer acquisition cost, retention, and lifetime value — turning scattered efforts into sustainable growth.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris sits down with Jennifer Zick, Founder and CEO of Authentic, to discuss how growing companies can move beyond tactical marketing and build strategic marketing leadership. Jennifer explains why random acts of marketing happen in scaling businesses, the difference between tactical "little-m" and strategic "big-M" marketing, and how fractional CMOs align marketing with revenue and long-term growth.

Jason Wong is the Founder and CEO of Paking Duck, which provides custom packaging solutions for DTC brands. Before launching Paking Duck, he built and scaled multiple DTC ventures, including Saucy, an end-to-end sourcing and logistics company, and the beauty brand Doe Lashes, which reached significant valuations under his leadership. Jason started his career as a teen entrepreneur in blogging, affiliate marketing, and e-commerce before expanding into international logistics, manufacturing, and supply chain operations.

Most founders obsess over ads, creative, and conversion rates — but overlook the one thing every customer physically touches. Packaging is often treated as a cost to minimize rather than an asset to optimize. How can the box on your customer's doorstep increase retention, reduce costs, and drive revenue?

Packaging manufacturing expert and e-commerce entrepreneur Jason Wong maintains that packaging can be a growth lever. He explains that packaging should be designed as a marketing channel inside the home — something customers proudly display, turning it into a mini billboard that keeps your brand top of mind. Jason advises founders to engineer packaging strategically by reducing dimensional weight to lower shipping costs, reinforcing structural integrity to prevent refunds and chargebacks, and designing with storytelling in mind to strengthen brand perception. When approached holistically, packaging moves from a backend expense to a compounding growth asset.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris sits down with Jason Wong, Founder and CEO of Paking Duck, to discuss how packaging drives e-commerce growth. Jason explains why packaging is a revenue driver, how smarter structural design reduces shipping costs and damage, and the common mistakes founders make when optimizing purely for cost.

Nick Gray is an entrepreneur, author, and the former Founder and Owner of Museum Hack, a company known for its unconventional, engaging museum tours that make art and history fun and accessible. He grew Museum Hack into a multi-city enterprise with dozens of employees before selling it to his leadership team in a seven-figure deal. Nick is the author of The 2-Hour Cocktail Party and has been featured in major media outlets, including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal.

As your business grows, your calendar fills up — but your circle often shrinks. Revenue increases, responsibilities multiply, and before long, most of your conversations revolve around work. How can you intentionally design gatherings that strengthen friendships while fueling smarter business growth?

Gathering expert Nick Gray says the answer is to stop leaving relationships to chance and start designing them intentionally. Most networking events fail because they're unstructured and intimidating, but a simple two-hour cocktail-style gathering with 15-22 guests creates the ideal environment for connection. Start with a small core group to guarantee attendance, use name tags and guided introductions to reduce friction, and host in your home to deepen trust. When done consistently, these gatherings strengthen weak ties, open business opportunities, and create genuine friendships.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris chats with Nick Gray, former Founder and Owner of Museum Hack, about building meaningful relationships through intentional hosting. Nick explains his viral Tokyo stunt, the 15-22 person two-hour party formula, and his 24-hour reply-all tactic to spark post-event connections.

Patrick J. Griffin is a Partner at TableForce, a firm that provides negotiation training for B2B professionals. As a seasoned negotiation expert and strategist, he has negotiated over $1 billion in sales with global financial institutions, specializing in complex financial instruments. Outside of negotiation training, Patrick is the Founder of Morrigan Strategic Advisors, where he provides fractional CFO services and executive advisory consultancy.

Negotiations can be tricky, often creating anxiety about whether you're getting the best deal. Yet, negotiating isn't always about winning or losing; rather, it's about finding ways to collaborate and create value. How can you approach negotiations with a mindset that benefits both parties involved?

High-stakes negotiation trainer Patrick J. Griffin challenges the typical adversarial view of negotiations. He regards them as collaborative problem-solving, where both sides work together to uncover new value. Patrick emphasizes the importance of preparation, understanding what both you and your counterpart value, and being clear on your priorities and boundaries. By focusing on these aspects, you increase the chances of creating long-term, mutually beneficial agreements.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris sits down with Patrick J. Griffin, a Partner at TableForce, to discuss how to approach negotiation as a collaborative process. Patrick shares insights on shifting from transactional to relational negotiations, why high expectations lead to better outcomes, and how founders often overlook value outside of price.

Cherene Aubert is the CEO of Growth Capital, a growth marketing firm that scales consumer brands. As a seasoned e-commerce and digital growth leader, she has nearly two decades of experience scaling DTC brands and managing media investments across multiple high-growth companies. Before Growth Capital, Cherene was the Fractional SVP of Digital & eCommerce at ILIA Beauty, where she drove omnichannel digital strategy for a rapidly growing clean beauty brand.

Marketing has become automated and identical across companies. Brands chase the same ads, channels, and short-term wins, only to discover that growth stalls and loyalty disappears. How can you build something memorable and scale without losing trust?

The way forward starts with obsessing over customers, not competitors. As a growth and e-commerce leader, Cherene Aubert maintains that brands should use customer insights — from ad data to conversations — to guide creative strategy, redefine quality as value for the customer, and invest in full-funnel thinking. This requires originality, emotional resonance, and the space for creative teams to build long-term demand rather than quick conversions.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris sits down with Cherene Aubert, CEO of Growth Capital, to discuss how brands can escape the marketing echo chamber. Cherene explains why copying competitors backfires, how full-funnel content drives sustainable growth, and how premium and beauty brands can stay culturally relevant.